[kde-linux] Shutting down just goes to login screen (was Re: KDE)

Dale dalek at exceedtech.net
Wed Jan 24 10:26:17 UTC 2007

david wrote:
> John Andersen wrote:
>> On Tuesday 23 January 2007 13:40, david wrote:
>>> I've used six different mail clients in my career on the internet. Not a 
>>> single one BY DEFAULT ever displayed the headers used by threading.
>> You totally miss the point.
>> These headers are not displayed - they are USED to properly sequence the list.
> I know that. But they're not shown, so people have no clue how they're
> being sorted that way.
>> It becomes obvious which message is a reply, they are all sequenced into
>> the proper order, and usually presented in an indented structure.
> I can already tell what message is a reply to something just by looking 
> at the subject.
>> Thunderbird (and presumably icedove) has proper threading support
>> and once you start using it you will never go back.  
>> The problem is that thunderbird garnered so many Outlook Express users
>> that they had to dumb down the product to keep these idiots happy as
>> officially explained here: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Stop_threading_by_subject
>> and as a result the broke their perfectly good package by turning off the
>> threading engine leaving you no choice but to sort by subject.
>> Follow the instructions on that page to turn on proper threading
>> (they probably are the same for icedove) and use it threaded for a week
>> and I bet you will never go back.
> I've already tried it. I find the threaded view useless, since the
> moment I do anything like sort by date, the threaded view is turned off.
> Sorry, I'm not going to waste my time for a week on this.

I use Seamonkey here.  Try doing it this way.  Tell it to sort by date
then hit sort by thread.  On mine, it seems to remember the previous
sort then puts it in order by thread.  Maybe Seamonkey is different but
it may be worth a try.

I to sort by threads.  Sorting by subject does not always work.  Sorting
by the headers has always worked for me and it appears to work for
others as well.

Point is, this and other lists have a way of doing things.  Either
adjust a bit or responses may be limited.  I had to set mine up to send
text only because a lot of people reject html.  I top post everywhere
else EXCEPT when I reply to a list.  It didn't take me to long to figure
out that either I was back to the forums or I had to do things they way
they are expected to be done.  It's sort of like following the rules. 
Either you do, or you don't.

Also keep in mind, the very people that are telling you this, is the
very ones that can help you most.  They are generally the experts that
have been doing this for a long time.  Poking them in the eye may not be
a good idea.

My $0.02 worth.  Your choice.


:-)  :-)  :-)


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