[kde-edu]: On teachers contributing content Was: KEduca resurrection (possible GSoC project)

[Aleix Pol]

On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Duda Nogueira <dudanogueira at gmail.com>wrote:

> Anne,
>
> Amanda told me about Akademy 2010, and when I saw the main topics
> (specially the "Connecting Our World: Social Desktop"), I thought that
> this new KEduca ideas would fit perfectly on a paper to be presented.
>
> So I sent this paper to: akademy-talks at kde.org
>
> Name: José Eduardo Campos Nogueira, aka "Duda Nogueira"
>
> Talk Title: A Social and clouded new approach to KDE-Edu
>
> Abstract:
> As we go towards on the usage of open source in educational projects
> with huge deployments, we need to not only provide good educational
> softwares, but ways to deliver content among software. A new, revamped
> KEduca looks like the perfect application to provide a platform, that
> will accomplish this goal, together with a remote portal/repository,
> where users/teachers can share or improve shared classes.
> Time needed: 30 minutes talk
>
> About me
> When I first used open source software, it was most about servers.
> Soon, I got to use as my desktop. After this, I saw the possibility to
> use it for educational purposes. I always liked the idea of education
> + computers. Unfortunately, I couldn't always work directly with open
> source, and web development took place for a few years in my career.
> Right now I work where I always wanted: a small yet innovative Linux
> Based company (Metasys Linux), aimed to deliver Educational Systems to
> government projects with about 50.000 delivered desktops (netbooks and
> desktops), and about 200.000 to deliver by the end of this year. All
> of them with KDE.
>
> References
> As an Open Source activist, I went to some nice events in Brazil:
> FISL, Latinoware and other local events. The last event was
> Latinoware, Where I got to know Anne Marie, Sandro Andrade, Tomaz
> Canabrava, Adrian de Groot, KDHelio Castro and others, just to name a
> few. After that, I decided to work closely with KDE-EDU crew.
>
>
>
> Duda Nogueira
> Gerente de Projetos em Tecnologia
> www.dudanogueira.com.br
>
> Celular: +55 31 9985-1271
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 4:13 AM, Anne-Marie Mahfouf
> <annemarie.mahfouf at free.fr> wrote:
> > Yes it would be great to have an IRC meeting on this so we could refine
> this
> > topic at the Edu meeting.
> > Aleix, any date? a doodle page?
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Anne-Marie
> >
> > On Saturday 17 April 2010 14:08:48 Duda Nogueira wrote:
> >> Hi Alex!
> >>
> >> That's a great idea. Deliver content among the software is definetly
> >> the way to Go!
> >>
> >> However, I don't think that relying on a web content such as portal do
> >> professor is a good idea, not only for the non semantic content as you
> >> pointed, but mainly for the availability and stability of the whole
> >> portal.
> >>
> >> Instead of putting the content into the software, a better aproach
> >> should be the opposite: put the software into the content.
> >>
> >> That's why I think Keduca can be a key software to do this job,
> >> integrating content with software.
> >>
> >> Picture the usage: Anne wants to teach her students about calcium/
> >> milk. She will create a Keduca file, with richmedia (audio, video,
> >> images, flash, weblinks) grabed from a Creative Commons source, and
> >> can also link his Keduca class with a specific application, even
> >> linking a specific word, such as "calcium" to a command, like "kalzium
> >> calcium"
> >>
> >> Anne can also share her class, created on her language by clicking on
> >> a button "share", and making it available on a central repository.
> >>
> >> Later, other teacher, named Marie ;) will be able to download the
> >> shared Keduca class, improve it, use it, and share it back on the
> >> central repository.
> >>
> >> It can be either a crazy idea or a good vision...
> >>
> >> Just a quick correction: Syst, the company I work for is the same as
> >> Metasys, but we prefer to be called as Metasy, for branding matters :)
> >>
> >> What do you guys think about that? A meeting/brainstorm would be great!!
> >>
> >> Enviado de meu iPhone
> >>
> >> Em 16/04/2010, às 12:13, Aleix Pol <aleixpol at kde.org> escreveu:
> >> > On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Duda Nogueira
> >> > <dudanogueira at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Hi there!
> >> >
> >> > As Mauricio said, we (Syst) have total interest in keeping a close
> >> > contact with KDE and KDE-EDU, helping on improvements not only in
> >> > KEduca app, but the whole Educational stack in open source, whenever
> >> > possible.
> >> >
> >> > It's important to note that our distro is being shipped in thousands
> >> > of Intel Classmates. Here in Brazil we have more then 13.000 already
> >> > delivered, and more 150.000 to go, as the UCA (One Laptop per Child)
> >> > Project from Brazil's government is being launched.
> >> >
> >> > On the desktop side, we have about 4.000 thousand schools here in our
> >> > state, Minas Gerais, with approximately 15 computers each, all of them
> >> > with KDE on in it.
> >> >
> >> > There is also another dekstop project, from the Communication area of
> >> > the government, that plans to deliver 20.000 labs, each one with 15
> >> > computers. From this total, 5.000 was already delivered, and the rest
> >> > will be delivered on the following months.
> >> >
> >> > With KEduca, we want to share/contribute with code, expertise and help
> >> > on stimulating teachers and institutions to develop and share new
> >> > tests/KEduca files.
> >> >
> >> > The Educational Area of our Government has an awesome portal
> >> > (http://portaldoprofessor.mec.gov.br/recursos.html) with tons of
> >> > contents (66G so far), and we think it'll be a good area to share the
> >> > pt-br KEduca tests.
> >> >
> >> > I'll be looking closely for the KEduca-new development, as I truly
> >> > believe this will a win-win situation, and a very interesting project!
> >> >
> >> > Best Regards!
> >> >
> >> > Duda Nogueira
> >> > Gerente de Projetos em Tecnologia
> >> > www.dudanogueira.com.br
> >> >
> >> > Celular: +55 31 9985-1271
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 3:47 AM, Anne-Marie Mahfouf
> >> >
> >> > <annemarie.mahfouf at free.fr> wrote:
> >> > > fabulous news and indeed making it possible to exchange data is the
> >> > > way to go!
> >> > > Thanks a
> >> >
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> >> >
> >> > Hi!!
> >> > I'm really happy to read such a mail. I think that such
> >> > communication between teachers and developers is definitely the way
> >> > to go. If you are interested on working with us, we should create
> >> > some IRC meeting together (if it's not possible to meet live) to
> >> > think of some way we can do that.
> >> >
> >> > For starters, even if the website has an amazing amount of
> >> > information (I mean it, there's stuff in catalan, awesome :)) I
> >> > don't think there's much we can do with that because data is not
> >> > formatted in any semantic way but we should try to get to that. A
> >> > good start would be to make it possible to integrate some
> >> > information into kalzium, they already have wikipedia information,
> >> > why not information from "portal do professor"? To do so we should
> >> > make it possible to be able to structure the data a little and to
> >> > create some RPC interface I guess, do you think that would be
> >> > possible?
> >> >
> >> > I think it would be great if we could provide kalgebra modules and
> >> > maybe cantor sheets for mathematical and science information in
> >> > general. I think this would be far better than the current just-html
> >> > approach. This would bring up new needs in hosting applications but
> >> > that's why we are here, isn't it?
> >> >
> >> > Well, looking forward to hearing from you. And remember that we're
> >> > here for good :D
> >> >
> >> > Aleix (KAlgebra maintainer)
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Yes, the thing is that the kde edu team we're holding a meeting in the end
of May and it would be great to start planning such stuff.
I also sent a talk proposal for KDE Edu for this year's akademy, we'll see
how it goes. So it would be nice to share some knowledge and intentions
before we get to Tampere :)

On the IRC meeting, I'd let the brazilian people to choose some timeframe
since I'm mostly available. Who would be interested on joining as well?

Aleix
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