[kde-edu]: On teachers contributing content Was: KEduca resurrection (possible GSoC project)

Tue Apr 20 00:47:56 CEST 2010

I am also mostly available!

Just point a date and time, and I'll be there!

:)

Duda Nogueira
Gerente de Projetos em Tecnologia
www.dudanogueira.com.br

Celular: +55 31 9985-1271

On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Aleix Pol <aleixpol at kde.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Duda Nogueira <dudanogueira at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Anne,
>>
>> Amanda told me about Akademy 2010, and when I saw the main topics
>> (specially the "Connecting Our World: Social Desktop"), I thought that
>> this new KEduca ideas would fit perfectly on a paper to be presented.
>>
>> So I sent this paper to: akademy-talks at kde.org
>>
>> Name: José Eduardo Campos Nogueira, aka "Duda Nogueira"
>>
>> Talk Title: A Social and clouded new approach to KDE-Edu
>>
>> Abstract:
>> As we go towards on the usage of open source in educational projects
>> with huge deployments, we need to not only provide good educational
>> softwares, but ways to deliver content among software. A new, revamped
>> KEduca looks like the perfect application to provide a platform, that
>> will accomplish this goal, together with a remote portal/repository,
>> where users/teachers can share or improve shared classes.
>> Time needed: 30 minutes talk
>>
>> About me
>> When I first used open source software, it was most about servers.
>> Soon, I got to use as my desktop. After this, I saw the possibility to
>> use it for educational purposes. I always liked the idea of education
>> + computers. Unfortunately, I couldn't always work directly with open
>> source, and web development took place for a few years in my career.
>> Right now I work where I always wanted: a small yet innovative Linux
>> Based company (Metasys Linux), aimed to deliver Educational Systems to
>> government projects with about 50.000 delivered desktops (netbooks and
>> desktops), and about 200.000 to deliver by the end of this year. All
>> of them with KDE.
>>
>> References
>> As an Open Source activist, I went to some nice events in Brazil:
>> FISL, Latinoware and other local events. The last event was
>> Latinoware, Where I got to know Anne Marie, Sandro Andrade, Tomaz
>> Canabrava, Adrian de Groot, KDHelio Castro and others, just to name a
>> few. After that, I decided to work closely with KDE-EDU crew.
>>
>>
>>
>> Duda Nogueira
>> Gerente de Projetos em Tecnologia
>> www.dudanogueira.com.br
>>
>> Celular: +55 31 9985-1271
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 4:13 AM, Anne-Marie Mahfouf
>> <annemarie.mahfouf at free.fr> wrote:
>> > Yes it would be great to have an IRC meeting on this so we could refine
>> > this
>> > topic at the Edu meeting.
>> > Aleix, any date? a doodle page?
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> >
>> > Anne-Marie
>> >
>> > On Saturday 17 April 2010 14:08:48 Duda Nogueira wrote:
>> >> Hi Alex!
>> >>
>> >> That's a great idea. Deliver content among the software is definetly
>> >> the way to Go!
>> >>
>> >> However, I don't think that relying on a web content such as portal do
>> >> professor is a good idea, not only for the non semantic content as you
>> >> pointed, but mainly for the availability and stability of the whole
>> >> portal.
>> >>
>> >> Instead of putting the content into the software, a better aproach
>> >> should be the opposite: put the software into the content.
>> >>
>> >> That's why I think Keduca can be a key software to do this job,
>> >> integrating content with software.
>> >>
>> >> Picture the usage: Anne wants to teach her students about calcium/
>> >> milk. She will create a Keduca file, with richmedia (audio, video,
>> >> images, flash, weblinks) grabed from a Creative Commons source, and
>> >> can also link his Keduca class with a specific application, even
>> >> linking a specific word, such as "calcium" to a command, like "kalzium
>> >> calcium"
>> >>
>> >> Anne can also share her class, created on her language by clicking on
>> >> a button "share", and making it available on a central repository.
>> >>
>> >> Later, other teacher, named Marie ;) will be able to download the
>> >> shared Keduca class, improve it, use it, and share it back on the
>> >> central repository.
>> >>
>> >> It can be either a crazy idea or a good vision...
>> >>
>> >> Just a quick correction: Syst, the company I work for is the same as
>> >> Metasys, but we prefer to be called as Metasy, for branding matters :)
>> >>
>> >> What do you guys think about that? A meeting/brainstorm would be
>> >> great!!
>> >>
>> >> Enviado de meu iPhone
>> >>
>> >> Em 16/04/2010, às 12:13, Aleix Pol <aleixpol at kde.org> escreveu:
>> >> > On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Duda Nogueira
>> >> > <dudanogueira at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Hi there!
>> >> >
>> >> > As Mauricio said, we (Syst) have total interest in keeping a close
>> >> > contact with KDE and KDE-EDU, helping on improvements not only in
>> >> > KEduca app, but the whole Educational stack in open source, whenever
>> >> > possible.
>> >> >
>> >> > It's important to note that our distro is being shipped in thousands
>> >> > of Intel Classmates. Here in Brazil we have more then 13.000 already
>> >> > delivered, and more 150.000 to go, as the UCA (One Laptop per Child)
>> >> > Project from Brazil's government is being launched.
>> >> >
>> >> > On the desktop side, we have about 4.000 thousand schools here in our
>> >> > state, Minas Gerais, with approximately 15 computers each, all of
>> >> > them
>> >> > with KDE on in it.
>> >> >
>> >> > There is also another dekstop project, from the Communication area of
>> >> > the government, that plans to deliver 20.000 labs, each one with 15
>> >> > computers. From this total, 5.000 was already delivered, and the rest
>> >> > will be delivered on the following months.
>> >> >
>> >> > With KEduca, we want to share/contribute with code, expertise and
>> >> > help
>> >> > on stimulating teachers and institutions to develop and share new
>> >> > tests/KEduca files.
>> >> >
>> >> > The Educational Area of our Government has an awesome portal
>> >> > (http://portaldoprofessor.mec.gov.br/recursos.html) with tons of
>> >> > contents (66G so far), and we think it'll be a good area to share the
>> >> > pt-br KEduca tests.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'll be looking closely for the KEduca-new development, as I truly
>> >> > believe this will a win-win situation, and a very interesting
>> >> > project!
>> >> >
>> >> > Best Regards!
>> >> >
>> >> > Duda Nogueira
>> >> > Gerente de Projetos em Tecnologia
>> >> > www.dudanogueira.com.br
>> >> >
>> >> > Celular: +55 31 9985-1271
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 3:47 AM, Anne-Marie Mahfouf
>> >> >
>> >> > <annemarie.mahfouf at free.fr> wrote:
>> >> > > fabulous news and indeed making it possible to exchange data is the
>> >> > > way to go!
>> >> > > Thanks a
>> >> >
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>> >> >
>> >> > Hi!!
>> >> > I'm really happy to read such a mail. I think that such
>> >> > communication between teachers and developers is definitely the way
>> >> > to go. If you are interested on working with us, we should create
>> >> > some IRC meeting together (if it's not possible to meet live) to
>> >> > think of some way we can do that.
>> >> >
>> >> > For starters, even if the website has an amazing amount of
>> >> > information (I mean it, there's stuff in catalan, awesome :)) I
>> >> > don't think there's much we can do with that because data is not
>> >> > formatted in any semantic way but we should try to get to that. A
>> >> > good start would be to make it possible to integrate some
>> >> > information into kalzium, they already have wikipedia information,
>> >> > why not information from "portal do professor"? To do so we should
>> >> > make it possible to be able to structure the data a little and to
>> >> > create some RPC interface I guess, do you think that would be
>> >> > possible?
>> >> >
>> >> > I think it would be great if we could provide kalgebra modules and
>> >> > maybe cantor sheets for mathematical and science information in
>> >> > general. I think this would be far better than the current just-html
>> >> > approach. This would bring up new needs in hosting applications but
>> >> > that's why we are here, isn't it?
>> >> >
>> >> > Well, looking forward to hearing from you. And remember that we're
>> >> > here for good :D
>> >> >
>> >> > Aleix (KAlgebra maintainer)
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> Yes, the thing is that the kde edu team we're holding a meeting in the end
> of May and it would be great to start planning such stuff.
> I also sent a talk proposal for KDE Edu for this year's akademy, we'll see
> how it goes. So it would be nice to share some knowledge and intentions
> before we get to Tampere :)
>
> On the IRC meeting, I'd let the brazilian people to choose some timeframe
> since I'm mostly available. Who would be interested on joining as well?
>
> Aleix
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