Muon and kde-gtk-config moved to kde/workspace - was - Re: Moving repositories in the module structure

[Aleix Pol]

On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 8:30 PM, Albert Astals Cid <aacid at kde.org> wrote:

> El Divendres, 3 d'octubre de 2014, a les 03:28:44, Aleix Pol va escriure:
> > On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 1:52 AM, Albert Astals Cid <aacid at kde.org> wrote:
> > > El Divendres, 3 d'octubre de 2014, a les 00:04:42, Aleix Pol va
> escriure:
> > > > On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 11:34 PM, Ben Cooksley <bcooksley at kde.org>
> wrote:
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > It seems there has been a recent outbreak of repository moves which
> > > > > have been extremely poorly co-ordinated by those doing the
> requests.
> > > > >
> > > > > In addition, it is actually a requirement that modules moving from
> > > > > Extragear into (what was at least) the SC need to re-transit
> through
> > > > > KDE Review.It is also considered proper practice to at least inform
> > > > > the translation, documentation and release  teams in advance you
> > > > > intend to make these moves - something which has also been
> neglected.
> > > > >
> > > > > For all further repository structure moves - please ensure you have
> > > > > received the appropriate consent from the above mentioned teams,
> and
> > > > > have announced them on the appropriate mailing lists in advance.
> > > > >
> > > > > @Plasma team: plasma-devel at kde.org does not constitute an
> appropriate
> > > > > mailing list, as it is not a community wide development mailing
> list.
> > > > > Only kde-devel and kde-core-devel qualify for this.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Ben Cooksley
> > > > > KDE Sysadmin
> > > >
> > > > My apologies, I shouldn't have rushed into doing such moves and send
> > > > e-mails to all the interested parties.
> > > >
> > > > If someone considers it appropriate, I can roll some of the changes
> > > > back.
> > >
> > > Maybe you should explain the changes so people is aware of them :)
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > >   Albert
> > >
> > > > Aleix
> >
> > Changes:
> > - kde-gtk-config was moved from extragear/base to kde/workspace.
> > - muon was moved from extragear/sysadmin to kde/workspace.
> >
> > That is, only projects.kde.org structure change.
>
> That's a total understament, it changes them from being something "extra"
> to
> be something totally core. So it's not "only" at all.
>
> > The reasoning is that this way they will be released together with Plasma
> > Workspace.
>
> I don't see that anyone can have a problem with kde-gtk-config.
>
> The muon move i see as much less clear, there are other "installers"
> provided
> by KDE (kpackagekit comes to mind) and muon is not widely used (AFAIK)
> outside
> KUbuntu, thus putting all the weight of making it a core thing is
> something I
> think we should not be doing without a bigger discussion with the
> community,
> and not just in Plasma.
>
> > As they've been used they don't really make sense outside Plasma
> > (especially the first) and we want to make sure that distros know these
> > components are designed to work together with Plasma.
>
> you're saying muon doesn't make sense outside plasma? how come? How does it
> stop working?


Other platforms will have other solutions. I focus on making Muon usable on
Plasma environments, making sure it fulfills the needs of Plasma and
doesn't overlap with other components.

Of course, it can work elsewhere, technically, but it's not my goal for
now. If somebody think it should be, I'm open to discuss it.


>
> > I didn't notify kde-core-devel because it didn't occur to me that the
> > community would have an opinion regarding whether it's me who releases
> the
> > packages or Jonathan (who has been doing the Plasma packages).
>
> Again, that's a total understament, i feel very sad you think that
> extragear/base vs kde/workspace is "just who releases the packages".
>
> Can you also please clarify to which release of plasma do you want to add
> this
> packages? I hope Plasma 5.2 since we're less than two weeks away from 5.1
> release and Beta has been released already, right?
>
Yes, 5.2.

KDE GTK Config is ready, but I was late with the move. Muon is not ready.

I'm considering to make a Technology Preview release for Muon (KDE GTK
Config already had one).

Aleix
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