Muon and kde-gtk-config moved to kde/workspace - was - Re: Moving repositories in the module structure

[Jeremy Whiting]

On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Albert Astals Cid <aacid at kde.org> wrote:
> El Divendres, 3 d'octubre de 2014, a les 03:28:44, Aleix Pol va escriure:
>> On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 1:52 AM, Albert Astals Cid <aacid at kde.org> wrote:
>> > El Divendres, 3 d'octubre de 2014, a les 00:04:42, Aleix Pol va escriure:
>> > > On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 11:34 PM, Ben Cooksley <bcooksley at kde.org> wrote:
>> > > > Hi all,
>> > > >
>> > > > It seems there has been a recent outbreak of repository moves which
>> > > > have been extremely poorly co-ordinated by those doing the requests.
>> > > >
>> > > > In addition, it is actually a requirement that modules moving from
>> > > > Extragear into (what was at least) the SC need to re-transit through
>> > > > KDE Review.It is also considered proper practice to at least inform
>> > > > the translation, documentation and release  teams in advance you
>> > > > intend to make these moves - something which has also been neglected.
>> > > >
>> > > > For all further repository structure moves - please ensure you have
>> > > > received the appropriate consent from the above mentioned teams, and
>> > > > have announced them on the appropriate mailing lists in advance.
>> > > >
>> > > > @Plasma team: plasma-devel at kde.org does not constitute an appropriate
>> > > > mailing list, as it is not a community wide development mailing list.
>> > > > Only kde-devel and kde-core-devel qualify for this.
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks,
>> > > > Ben Cooksley
>> > > > KDE Sysadmin
>> > >
>> > > My apologies, I shouldn't have rushed into doing such moves and send
>> > > e-mails to all the interested parties.
>> > >
>> > > If someone considers it appropriate, I can roll some of the changes
>> > > back.
>> >
>> > Maybe you should explain the changes so people is aware of them :)
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> >   Albert
>> >
>> > > Aleix
>>
>> Changes:
>> - kde-gtk-config was moved from extragear/base to kde/workspace.
>> - muon was moved from extragear/sysadmin to kde/workspace.
>>
>> That is, only projects.kde.org structure change.
>
> That's a total understament, it changes them from being something "extra" to
> be something totally core. So it's not "only" at all.
>
>> The reasoning is that this way they will be released together with Plasma
>> Workspace.
>
> I don't see that anyone can have a problem with kde-gtk-config.
>
> The muon move i see as much less clear, there are other "installers" provided
> by KDE (kpackagekit comes to mind) and muon is not widely used (AFAIK) outside
> KUbuntu, thus putting all the weight of making it a core thing is something I
> think we should not be doing without a bigger discussion with the community,
> and not just in Plasma.
>
>> As they've been used they don't really make sense outside Plasma
>> (especially the first) and we want to make sure that distros know these
>> components are designed to work together with Plasma.
>
> you're saying muon doesn't make sense outside plasma? how come? How does it
> stop working?

I'm pretty sure he's talking about kde-gtk-config here. his list was
kde-gtk-config then muon. kde-gtk-config isn't useful outside of
plasma, muon probably is though I would think...

>
>> I didn't notify kde-core-devel because it didn't occur to me that the
>> community would have an opinion regarding whether it's me who releases the
>> packages or Jonathan (who has been doing the Plasma packages).
>
> Again, that's a total understament, i feel very sad you think that
> extragear/base vs kde/workspace is "just who releases the packages".
>
> Can you also please clarify to which release of plasma do you want to add this
> packages? I hope Plasma 5.2 since we're less than two weeks away from 5.1
> release and Beta has been released already, right?
>
> Cheers,
>   Albert
>
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Aleix
>