<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 8:30 PM, Albert Astals Cid <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:aacid@kde.org" target="_blank">aacid@kde.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">El Divendres, 3 d'octubre de 2014, a les 03:28:44, Aleix Pol va escriure:<br>
> On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 1:52 AM, Albert Astals Cid <<a href="mailto:aacid@kde.org">aacid@kde.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> > El Divendres, 3 d'octubre de 2014, a les 00:04:42, Aleix Pol va escriure:<br>
> > > On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 11:34 PM, Ben Cooksley <<a href="mailto:bcooksley@kde.org">bcooksley@kde.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> > > > Hi all,<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > It seems there has been a recent outbreak of repository moves which<br>
> > > > have been extremely poorly co-ordinated by those doing the requests.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > In addition, it is actually a requirement that modules moving from<br>
> > > > Extragear into (what was at least) the SC need to re-transit through<br>
> > > > KDE Review.It is also considered proper practice to at least inform<br>
> > > > the translation, documentation and release teams in advance you<br>
> > > > intend to make these moves - something which has also been neglected.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > For all further repository structure moves - please ensure you have<br>
> > > > received the appropriate consent from the above mentioned teams, and<br>
> > > > have announced them on the appropriate mailing lists in advance.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > @Plasma team: <a href="mailto:plasma-devel@kde.org">plasma-devel@kde.org</a> does not constitute an appropriate<br>
> > > > mailing list, as it is not a community wide development mailing list.<br>
> > > > Only kde-devel and kde-core-devel qualify for this.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > Thanks,<br>
> > > > Ben Cooksley<br>
> > > > KDE Sysadmin<br>
> > ><br>
> > > My apologies, I shouldn't have rushed into doing such moves and send<br>
> > > e-mails to all the interested parties.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > If someone considers it appropriate, I can roll some of the changes<br>
> > > back.<br>
> ><br>
> > Maybe you should explain the changes so people is aware of them :)<br>
> ><br>
> > Cheers,<br>
> ><br>
> > Albert<br>
> ><br>
> > > Aleix<br>
><br>
> Changes:<br>
> - kde-gtk-config was moved from extragear/base to kde/workspace.<br>
> - muon was moved from extragear/sysadmin to kde/workspace.<br>
><br>
> That is, only <a href="http://projects.kde.org" target="_blank">projects.kde.org</a> structure change.<br>
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That's a total understament, it changes them from being something "extra" to<br>
be something totally core. So it's not "only" at all.<br>
<br>
> The reasoning is that this way they will be released together with Plasma<br>
> Workspace.<br>
<br>
I don't see that anyone can have a problem with kde-gtk-config.<br>
<br>
The muon move i see as much less clear, there are other "installers" provided<br>
by KDE (kpackagekit comes to mind) and muon is not widely used (AFAIK) outside<br>
KUbuntu, thus putting all the weight of making it a core thing is something I<br>
think we should not be doing without a bigger discussion with the community,<br>
and not just in Plasma.<br>
<br>
> As they've been used they don't really make sense outside Plasma<br>
> (especially the first) and we want to make sure that distros know these<br>
> components are designed to work together with Plasma.<br>
<br>
you're saying muon doesn't make sense outside plasma? how come? How does it<br>
stop working?</blockquote><div><br></div><div>Other platforms will have other solutions. I focus on making Muon usable on Plasma environments, making sure it fulfills the needs of Plasma and doesn't overlap with other components.</div><div><br></div><div>Of course, it can work elsewhere, technically, but it's not my goal for now. If somebody think it should be, I'm open to discuss it.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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> I didn't notify kde-core-devel because it didn't occur to me that the<br>
> community would have an opinion regarding whether it's me who releases the<br>
> packages or Jonathan (who has been doing the Plasma packages).<br>
<br>
Again, that's a total understament, i feel very sad you think that<br>
extragear/base vs kde/workspace is "just who releases the packages".<br>
<br>
Can you also please clarify to which release of plasma do you want to add this<br>
packages? I hope Plasma 5.2 since we're less than two weeks away from 5.1<br>
release and Beta has been released already, right?<br></blockquote><div>Yes, 5.2.</div><div><br></div><div>KDE GTK Config is ready, but I was late with the move. Muon is not ready.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm considering to make a Technology Preview release for Muon (KDE GTK Config already had one). </div><div><br></div></div>Aleix</div></div>