[digiKam-users] Tip for searching the mailing list archive
Gilles Caulier
caulier.gilles at gmail.com
Tue Jan 18 11:42:27 GMT 2022
Something like that :
https://staging.digikam.org/support/
It's in staging branch of the web site. It will be online officially in a
few minutes.
Gilles
Le mar. 18 janv. 2022 à 12:12, Phil <philtuckey at free.fr> a écrit :
> Hi
>
> On duckduckgo the following search term gives better results:
>
> site:mail.kde.org inurl:digikam-users dng
>
> FWIW, this form is given in the Mailman FAQ:
>
> https://wiki.list.org/DOC/How%20do%20I%20search%20the%20archives%20of%20the%20mailman-users%20mailing%20list%3F
>
> I agree that the mailing list archive is a valuable resource, and
> searching it is hard/frustrating, as it is for mailman archives in general.
>
> I suggest that information about how to search the archive is important
> enough to justify putting it on the "digiKam Support" page itself,
> https://www.digikam.org/support/, next to the link to the mailing list
> archive. For example something like:
>
> Search the archive using the following search in usual search engines:
> site:mail.kde.org inurl:digikam-users my search topic
>
> It appears that mailman itself does not include a search engine for its
> archives, but sites can set up a separate search interface, such as
> mailman itself has:
> https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
> As far as I can see, kde does not have a search interface for the lists
> served on mail.kde.org. For example the kde lists support page:
> https://kde.org/support/mailinglists/
> points to the usual pipermail archive interface for the 22 years of the
> kde list:
> https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde/
>
> (This message is not intended to be critical of anyone, just collecting
> information.)
>
> On 18/01/2022 11:36, irthomasthomas at gmail.com wrote:
> > Sorry, the working example link for searching "DNG" in the archive is
> >
> >
> https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fmail.kde.org%2Fpipermail%2Fdigikam-users%2F+dng
> > <
> https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fmail.kde.org%2Fpipermail%2Fdigikam-users%2F+dng
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 18 Jan 2022, 10:31 irthomasthomas at gmail.com
> > <mailto:irthomasthomas at gmail.com>, <irthomasthomas at gmail.com
> > <mailto:irthomasthomas at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, as a workaround to the missing mailing list search function, try
> > this query in your search engine: "site:url search term"
> >
> > E.g. to search stuff about DNG files:
> >
> > site:https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/digikam-users/
> > <https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/digikam-users/> dng
> >
> > Google seems to have better results than DDG and Brave for this type
> > of query. D
> > I didn't try bing. E.g.
> >
> https://www.google.com/search?q=site:https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/digikam-users/
> > <
> https://www.google.com/search?q=site:https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/digikam-users/
> >
> > dng
> >
> > On Tue, 18 Jan 2022, 10:15 frederic chaume,
> > <frederic.chaume at gmail.com <mailto:frederic.chaume at gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >
> > mailing list is fine for me, only missing from my point of view
> > is an efficient searching tool to retreive useful information ,
> > to get knowledge from already answered questions. There is a
> > link to access all the mails, classified by month , but unusable
> > for any search capabilities (as far as I know)
> > regards
> >
> >
> >
> > Le 18/01/2022 à 11:06, irthomasthomas at gmail.com
> > <mailto:irthomasthomas at gmail.com> a écrit :
> >> I also like this mailing list format. I think the empty forum
> >> simply reflects the digikam user demographics and preferences.
> >> Perhaps the mailing list promotion and onboarding can be
> >> improved instead?
> >>
> >> Thanks to the team and everyone who contributes here.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, 18 Jan 2022, 09:59 Stuart T Rogers,
> >> <stuart at stella-maris.org.uk
> >> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk>> wrote:
> >>
> >> I agree, I like the mailing list and the fact that we get
> >> responses from
> >> the developers on a regular basis. I also think that the
> >> mailing list
> >> gets better requests for information than many forums
> >> because people
> >> stop and think before posting a question because they know
> >> everyone on
> >> the list will see their update.
> >>
> >> A forum has to be policed and that takes work which the
> >> developers
> >> cannot spend time on, it is also far more open to abuse
> >> and spam.
> >>
> >> Stuart
> >>
> >> On 18/01/2022 08:53, Andrew Goodbody wrote:
> >> > I am very much against using a forum. They are slower
> >> and take more
> >> > effort to read.
> >> >
> >> > Andrew
> >> >
> >> > On 18/01/2022 08:13, Jack Marxer wrote:
> >> >> I want to thank the digiKam developers for all the work
> >> they have done
> >> >> in developing and maintaining such a wonderful program!
> >> >>
> >> >> I also would like to use a forum, but I don't know if
> >> there is someone
> >> >> who would be willing to develop and maintain it.
> >> >> Jack Marxer
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 3:03 AM Ty Mayn
> >> <tyrus.mayn at gmail.com <mailto:tyrus.mayn at gmail.com>
> >> >> <mailto:tyrus.mayn at gmail.com
> >> <mailto:tyrus.mayn at gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> After study of the public viewable archives I see
> >> that discussion
> >> >> is more immediate on this oldfashioned Mailman
> >> listservice. Its
> >> >> clear to me that it is small but has some
> >> responsive leaders with
> >> >> knowledge.
> >> >> Meanwhile the similarly named digikam Forum
> >> hosted by kde is
> >> >> small and more inactive. After posting there this
> >> January I resorted
> >> >> to answering my own posting just to be partially
> useful
> >> >> https://forum.kde.org/viewforum.php?f=256
> >> <https://forum.kde.org/viewforum.php?f=256>
> >> >> <https://forum.kde.org/viewforum.php?f=256
> >> <https://forum.kde.org/viewforum.php?f=256>>
> >> >> The energy on this list service deserves
> >> better tools.
> >> >> https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/digikam-users/
> >> <https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/digikam-users/>
> >> >> <https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/digikam-users/
> >> <https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/digikam-users/>>
> >> >> The archive has at least 17 years of useful
> >> knowledge zipped into
> >> >> 204 separate months that no newcomer (or even old
> >> user)will easily
> >> >> search.
> >> >> Has anyone ever prepared and circulated a
> >> consolidated archive
> >> >> ready for global search?
> >> >> Every posting member has their participating
> >> email exposed to
> >> >> weak masking that only replaces @ with "at" while
> >> the forum tools
> >> >> at KDE have good authentication and member shelter.
> >> >> Am I the only one to have spoken on this
> >> issue? I would have to
> >> >> search the archives to know but I suppose each
> >> current member has a
> >> >> view and every pattern has inertia. Please accept
> >> this as a
> >> >> positive input on a good thing
> >> >> Ty Mayn
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> --
> >> Website: https://www.stella-maris.org.uk
> >> <https://www.stella-maris.org.uk>
> >> or: https//www.broadstairs.org
> >> <http://www.broadstairs.org>
> >>
> >
>
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