[digiKam-users] Tip for searching the mailing list archive
Phil
philtuckey at free.fr
Tue Jan 18 11:12:28 GMT 2022
Hi
On duckduckgo the following search term gives better results:
site:mail.kde.org inurl:digikam-users dng
FWIW, this form is given in the Mailman FAQ:
https://wiki.list.org/DOC/How%20do%20I%20search%20the%20archives%20of%20the%20mailman-users%20mailing%20list%3F
I agree that the mailing list archive is a valuable resource, and
searching it is hard/frustrating, as it is for mailman archives in general.
I suggest that information about how to search the archive is important
enough to justify putting it on the "digiKam Support" page itself,
https://www.digikam.org/support/, next to the link to the mailing list
archive. For example something like:
Search the archive using the following search in usual search engines:
site:mail.kde.org inurl:digikam-users my search topic
It appears that mailman itself does not include a search engine for its
archives, but sites can set up a separate search interface, such as
mailman itself has:
https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
As far as I can see, kde does not have a search interface for the lists
served on mail.kde.org. For example the kde lists support page:
https://kde.org/support/mailinglists/
points to the usual pipermail archive interface for the 22 years of the
kde list:
https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde/
(This message is not intended to be critical of anyone, just collecting
information.)
On 18/01/2022 11:36, irthomasthomas at gmail.com wrote:
> Sorry, the working example link for searching "DNG" in the archive is
>
> https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fmail.kde.org%2Fpipermail%2Fdigikam-users%2F+dng
> <https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fmail.kde.org%2Fpipermail%2Fdigikam-users%2F+dng>
>
> On Tue, 18 Jan 2022, 10:31 irthomasthomas at gmail.com
> <mailto:irthomasthomas at gmail.com>, <irthomasthomas at gmail.com
> <mailto:irthomasthomas at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi, as a workaround to the missing mailing list search function, try
> this query in your search engine: "site:url search term"
>
> E.g. to search stuff about DNG files:
>
> site:https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/digikam-users/
> <https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/digikam-users/> dng
>
> Google seems to have better results than DDG and Brave for this type
> of query. D
> I didn't try bing. E.g.
> https://www.google.com/search?q=site:https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/digikam-users/
> <https://www.google.com/search?q=site:https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/digikam-users/>
> dng
>
> On Tue, 18 Jan 2022, 10:15 frederic chaume,
> <frederic.chaume at gmail.com <mailto:frederic.chaume at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> mailing list is fine for me, only missing from my point of view
> is an efficient searching tool to retreive useful information ,
> to get knowledge from already answered questions. There is a
> link to access all the mails, classified by month , but unusable
> for any search capabilities (as far as I know)
> regards
>
>
>
> Le 18/01/2022 à 11:06, irthomasthomas at gmail.com
> <mailto:irthomasthomas at gmail.com> a écrit :
>> I also like this mailing list format. I think the empty forum
>> simply reflects the digikam user demographics and preferences.
>> Perhaps the mailing list promotion and onboarding can be
>> improved instead?
>>
>> Thanks to the team and everyone who contributes here.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 18 Jan 2022, 09:59 Stuart T Rogers,
>> <stuart at stella-maris.org.uk
>> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk>> wrote:
>>
>> I agree, I like the mailing list and the fact that we get
>> responses from
>> the developers on a regular basis. I also think that the
>> mailing list
>> gets better requests for information than many forums
>> because people
>> stop and think before posting a question because they know
>> everyone on
>> the list will see their update.
>>
>> A forum has to be policed and that takes work which the
>> developers
>> cannot spend time on, it is also far more open to abuse
>> and spam.
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>> On 18/01/2022 08:53, Andrew Goodbody wrote:
>> > I am very much against using a forum. They are slower
>> and take more
>> > effort to read.
>> >
>> > Andrew
>> >
>> > On 18/01/2022 08:13, Jack Marxer wrote:
>> >> I want to thank the digiKam developers for all the work
>> they have done
>> >> in developing and maintaining such a wonderful program!
>> >>
>> >> I also would like to use a forum, but I don't know if
>> there is someone
>> >> who would be willing to develop and maintain it.
>> >> Jack Marxer
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 3:03 AM Ty Mayn
>> <tyrus.mayn at gmail.com <mailto:tyrus.mayn at gmail.com>
>> >> <mailto:tyrus.mayn at gmail.com
>> <mailto:tyrus.mayn at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> After study of the public viewable archives I see
>> that discussion
>> >> is more immediate on this oldfashioned Mailman
>> listservice. Its
>> >> clear to me that it is small but has some
>> responsive leaders with
>> >> knowledge.
>> >> Meanwhile the similarly named digikam Forum
>> hosted by kde is
>> >> small and more inactive. After posting there this
>> January I resorted
>> >> to answering my own posting just to be partially useful
>> >> https://forum.kde.org/viewforum.php?f=256
>> <https://forum.kde.org/viewforum.php?f=256>
>> >> <https://forum.kde.org/viewforum.php?f=256
>> <https://forum.kde.org/viewforum.php?f=256>>
>> >> The energy on this list service deserves
>> better tools.
>> >> https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/digikam-users/
>> <https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/digikam-users/>
>> >> <https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/digikam-users/
>> <https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/digikam-users/>>
>> >> The archive has at least 17 years of useful
>> knowledge zipped into
>> >> 204 separate months that no newcomer (or even old
>> user)will easily
>> >> search.
>> >> Has anyone ever prepared and circulated a
>> consolidated archive
>> >> ready for global search?
>> >> Every posting member has their participating
>> email exposed to
>> >> weak masking that only replaces @ with "at" while
>> the forum tools
>> >> at KDE have good authentication and member shelter.
>> >> Am I the only one to have spoken on this
>> issue? I would have to
>> >> search the archives to know but I suppose each
>> current member has a
>> >> view and every pattern has inertia. Please accept
>> this as a
>> >> positive input on a good thing
>> >> Ty Mayn
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>> --
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>> <https://www.stella-maris.org.uk>
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>>
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