[digiKam-users] Tip for searching the mailing list archive

frederic chaume frederic.chaume at gmail.com
Tue Jan 18 11:46:00 GMT 2022


excellent, that's very useful. at least it allows basic search, may need 
some advice for more advanced search 'AND, OR,..)



Le 18/01/2022 à 12:42, Gilles Caulier a écrit :
> Something like that :
>
> https://staging.digikam.org/support/
>
> It's in staging branch of the web site. It will be online officially 
> in a few minutes.
>
> Gilles
>
> Le mar. 18 janv. 2022 à 12:12, Phil <philtuckey at free.fr> a écrit :
>
>     Hi
>
>     On duckduckgo the following search term gives better results:
>
>     site:mail.kde.org <http://mail.kde.org> inurl:digikam-users dng
>
>     FWIW, this form is given in the Mailman FAQ:
>     https://wiki.list.org/DOC/How%20do%20I%20search%20the%20archives%20of%20the%20mailman-users%20mailing%20list%3F
>
>     I agree that the mailing list archive is a valuable resource, and
>     searching it is hard/frustrating, as it is for mailman archives in
>     general.
>
>     I suggest that information about how to search the archive is
>     important
>     enough to justify putting it on the "digiKam Support" page itself,
>     https://www.digikam.org/support/, next to the link to the mailing
>     list
>     archive. For example something like:
>
>     Search the archive using the following search in usual search engines:
>     site:mail.kde.org <http://mail.kde.org> inurl:digikam-users my
>     search topic
>
>     It appears that mailman itself does not include a search engine
>     for its
>     archives, but sites can set up a separate search interface, such as
>     mailman itself has:
>     https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
>     As far as I can see, kde does not have a search interface for the
>     lists
>     served on mail.kde.org <http://mail.kde.org>. For example the kde
>     lists support page:
>     https://kde.org/support/mailinglists/
>     points to the usual pipermail archive interface for the 22 years
>     of the
>     kde list:
>     https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde/
>
>     (This message is not intended to be critical of anyone, just
>     collecting
>     information.)
>
>     On 18/01/2022 11:36, irthomasthomas at gmail.com wrote:
>     > Sorry, the working example link for searching "DNG" in the
>     archive is
>     >
>     >
>     https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fmail.kde.org%2Fpipermail%2Fdigikam-users%2F+dng
>
>     >
>     <https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fmail.kde.org%2Fpipermail%2Fdigikam-users%2F+dng>
>     >
>     > On Tue, 18 Jan 2022, 10:31 irthomasthomas at gmail.com
>     > <mailto:irthomasthomas at gmail.com>, <irthomasthomas at gmail.com
>     > <mailto:irthomasthomas at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     Hi, as a workaround to the missing mailing list search
>     function, try
>     >     this query in your search engine: "site:url search term"
>     >
>     >     E.g. to search stuff about DNG files:
>     >
>     >     site:https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/digikam-users/
>     >     <https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/digikam-users/> dng
>     >
>     >     Google seems to have better results than DDG and Brave for
>     this type
>     >     of query. D
>     >     I didn't try bing. E.g.
>     >
>     https://www.google.com/search?q=site:https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/digikam-users/
>     >   
>      <https://www.google.com/search?q=site:https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/digikam-users/>
>     >     dng
>     >
>     >     On Tue, 18 Jan 2022, 10:15 frederic chaume,
>     >     <frederic.chaume at gmail.com
>     <mailto:frederic.chaume at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >
>     >         mailing list is fine for me, only missing from my point
>     of view
>     >         is an efficient searching tool to retreive useful
>     information ,
>     >         to get knowledge from already answered questions. There is a
>     >         link to access all the mails, classified by month , but
>     unusable
>     >         for any search capabilities (as far as I know)
>     >           regards
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >         Le 18/01/2022 à 11:06, irthomasthomas at gmail.com
>     >         <mailto:irthomasthomas at gmail.com> a écrit :
>     >>         I also like this mailing list format. I think the empty
>     forum
>     >>         simply reflects the digikam user demographics and
>     preferences.
>     >>         Perhaps the mailing list promotion and onboarding can be
>     >>         improved instead?
>     >>
>     >>         Thanks to the team and everyone who contributes here.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>         On Tue, 18 Jan 2022, 09:59 Stuart T Rogers,
>     >>         <stuart at stella-maris.org.uk
>     >>         <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>             I agree, I like the mailing list and the fact that
>     we get
>     >>             responses from
>     >>             the developers on a regular basis. I also think
>     that the
>     >>             mailing list
>     >>             gets better requests for information than many forums
>     >>             because people
>     >>             stop and think before posting a question because
>     they know
>     >>             everyone on
>     >>             the list will see their update.
>     >>
>     >>             A forum has to be policed and that takes work which the
>     >>             developers
>     >>             cannot spend time on, it is also far more open to abuse
>     >>             and spam.
>     >>
>     >>             Stuart
>     >>
>     >>             On 18/01/2022 08:53, Andrew Goodbody wrote:
>     >>             > I am very much against using a forum. They are slower
>     >>             and take more
>     >>             > effort to read.
>     >>             >
>     >>             > Andrew
>     >>             >
>     >>             > On 18/01/2022 08:13, Jack Marxer wrote:
>     >>             >> I want to thank the digiKam developers for all
>     the work
>     >>             they have done
>     >>             >> in developing and maintaining such a wonderful
>     program!
>     >>             >>
>     >>             >> I also would like to use a forum, but I don't
>     know if
>     >>             there is someone
>     >>             >> who would be willing to develop and maintain it.
>     >>             >> Jack Marxer
>     >>             >>
>     >>             >> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 3:03 AM Ty Mayn
>     >>             <tyrus.mayn at gmail.com <mailto:tyrus.mayn at gmail.com>
>     >>             >> <mailto:tyrus.mayn at gmail.com
>     >>             <mailto:tyrus.mayn at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>     >>             >>
>     >>             >>       After study of the public viewable
>     archives I see
>     >>             that discussion
>     >>             >>     is more immediate on this oldfashioned Mailman
>     >>             listservice. Its
>     >>             >>     clear to me that it is small but has some
>     >>             responsive leaders with
>     >>             >>     knowledge.
>     >>             >>          Meanwhile the similarly named digikam Forum
>     >>             hosted by kde is
>     >>             >>     small and more inactive. After posting there
>     this
>     >>             January I resorted
>     >>             >>     to answering my own posting just to be
>     partially useful
>     >>             >> https://forum.kde.org/viewforum.php?f=256
>     >>             <https://forum.kde.org/viewforum.php?f=256>
>     >>             >>     <https://forum.kde.org/viewforum.php?f=256
>     >>             <https://forum.kde.org/viewforum.php?f=256>>
>     >>             >>           The energy on this list service deserves
>     >>             better tools.
>     >>             >> https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/digikam-users/
>     >>             <https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/digikam-users/>
>     >>             >>     <https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/digikam-users/
>     >>             <https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/digikam-users/>>
>     >>             >>     The archive has at least 17 years of useful
>     >>             knowledge zipped into
>     >>             >>     204 separate months that no newcomer (or
>     even old
>     >>             user)will easily
>     >>             >>     search.
>     >>             >>          Has anyone ever prepared and circulated a
>     >>             consolidated archive
>     >>             >>     ready for global search?
>     >>             >>       Every posting member has their  participating
>     >>             email exposed to
>     >>             >>     weak masking that only replaces @ with "at"
>     while
>     >>             the  forum tools
>     >>             >>     at KDE have good authentication and member
>     shelter.
>     >>             >>          Am I the only one to have spoken on this
>     >>             issue? I would have to
>     >>             >>     search the archives to know but I suppose each
>     >>             current member has a
>     >>             >>     view and every pattern has inertia.  Please
>     accept
>     >>             this as a
>     >>             >>     positive input on a good thing
>     >>             >>     Ty Mayn
>     >>             >>
>     >>             >>
>     >>             >
>     >>             >
>     >>
>     >>             --
>     >>             Website: https://www.stella-maris.org.uk
>     >>             <https://www.stella-maris.org.uk>
>     >>             or:      https//www.broadstairs.org
>     <http://www.broadstairs.org>
>     >>             <http://www.broadstairs.org>
>     >>
>     >
>
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