Endorsement

Leo Franchi lfranchi at kde.org
Wed Jan 28 12:18:28 CET 2009


I don't think there is anything wrong with "endorsements" per say. I  
mean i see no issue in lobbying for candidates who you feel are  
strong. All the voters are adult enough to be able to think for  
themselves, and judge based on what they consider to be the merits of  
the candidates :)

I think Jeff was a bit put off by the tone of Mark's email, and by the  
flippancy that he used to describe the other contributors he  
mentioned. I think we need to step back a bit and realize that a) (as  
Dan said) this is just for financial/legal matters and b) We're still  
a community of developers/contributors. I would really hate to see  
this one vote divide us so much.

I think Lydia was angry because she felt that people were trying to  
circumnavigate the power of the vote by insisting on certain members  
be a part of the board regardless (The reference to Linus I think is  
misguided, Amarok does not have a bus factor of 1 as Linux does). But  
if we look at Greg's email as his own endorsement of Mark and  
exhortation to vote for him (rather than put it past voting  
altogether) it won't be as inflammatory.

So all that said, I look forward to more endorsements from those that  
feel that they should give them. And they will probably not sway my  
vote. But it's always worth a try :)

leo

On 28 Jan 2009, at 02:42, Jeff Mitchell wrote:

> This email feels mildly insulting, to me at least, and I would imagine
> several others.
>
> You round off your ringing endorsement of Seb and Ian, talking about
> their loyalty to the project, by stating that you are "pretty sure"
> that a few others, including myself, would be good candidates as well.
>
> Mark, why are you not fully sure? The board's job is to make financial
> decisions for the benefit of the project. Is there something inherent
> to this job that you think may just be above the reach of the rest of
> us to grasp?
>
> I am not trying to make a big deal out of this, but this is not the
> first time that statements of yours (usually on IRC) have made me feel
> on the wrong end of some stick, such as "loyalty" or "dedication" or
> "vision". I don't feel that I lack any of the three, nor have you
> talked to me about these concerns. So when making dubious public
> statements like those below, I can't help but wonder WTF.
>
> Your endorsement of Ian and Seb are not a surprise; it is well known
> that they are your preferences for just about anything. So I'm not
> looking for the same. I would just either like you to explain your
> concerns to me, or stop making such underhanded statements.
>
> If you want to chalk it up to the "perceived lack of social finesse"
> you are working on, I will be happy to let the subject drop (but then
> please work on not making such statements :-) ).
>
> --Jeff
>
>
> On Jan 27, 2009, at 1:47 PM, Mark Kretschmann <kretschmann at kde.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Heya,
>>
>> I was pondering the voting stuff and decided to follow the American
>> tradition of giving a public "Endorsement" [1]. This does not have  
>> any
>> legal relevance, but is meant for your consideration as good advice
>> for choosing board members.
>>
>>
>> * Seb Ruiz
>>
>> Seb has been with the Amarok project for a long time. Indisputably,
>> Seb is extremely loyal to our project, which he has shown by his
>> persistent dedication. Seb Ruiz sports a number of qualities that I
>> greatly appreciate. Among these are technical competence, a great
>> focus on detail, humor, and social skills. Seb has my full trust. I
>> feel that he represents much of the original spirit of our project.
>>
>>
>> * Ian Monroe
>>
>> Ian also has been with Amarok for quite a while. Similar to Seb, his
>> dedication is hardly disputable. Ian does have different qualities
>> from Seb, but shares the technical competence and the humor. Two
>> qualities that I appreciate especially from Ian are his honesty and
>> his "getting things done" attitude. I also feel that Ian fully
>> understands and acts what is important to Amarok.
>>
>>
>> Last not least I would also like to recommend myself for the board.  
>> My
>> qualities are obvious I think. I do also sport a number of well known
>> disadvantages, among which are impatience, aggressiveness, and  
>> perhaps
>> a perceived lack of social finesse. Some of these issues I have been
>> trying to improve, and I'm actively working on improving them  
>> further.
>> Believe it or not, but people can change, especially if there is a
>> will. You be the judge.
>>
>>
>> Further on we have a number of people that I greatly appreciate,  
>> among
>> which are Leinir, Nikolaj, Lydia, Leo, Bart, and Jeff. I'm pretty  
>> sure
>> that these people are also good candidates for our board.
>>
>>
>> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_endorsement
>>
>> -- 
>> Mark Kretschmann
>> Amarok Developer
>> www.kde.org - amarok.kde.org
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