[Uml-devel] Re: kdesdk/umbrello/umbrello

Peeter Russak pezz at tkwcy.ee
Mon Dec 22 00:46:01 UTC 2003

Jonathan Riddell wrote:
"Yes, Umbrello UML Modeller is the full name that was decided upon
about 18 months ago."

About month or so ago I as one of localizers of Umbrello suggested this 
change, but I got no serious answer why Umbrello must have description in 
it's appname, except some poor excuses about longer name being more fancy, 
name-translation excuses which were wrong etc. 

I as translator know that it's really bad to have such a long name as appname, 
because it appears in several places (Help->About appname, Tools->Configure 
appname etc) where it really doesn't fit. Sometimes it even doesn't fit in 
one-word form, but with long name it looks even uglier. 

Please, english- and german-speaking developers, most of languages out there 
are more complicated than yours, so forget your fanciness and think about 
others too. Umbrello is good and fancy name for UML modelling tool, no need 
for needless carneval.


Ühel kenal päeval (pühapäev, 21. detsember 2003 23:23) kirjutas Stephan 
> On Sunday 21 December 2003 21:40, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
> > It just seems sensible to use the full name rather than the short name.
> > With the full name in use there no longer seems a need for a GenericName.
> Obviously there are people who think different about this. Why do you want
> to prevent that they can configure what they want to see in the menu?
> Either a short program name, some combination of displaying both (KDE) or
> just a pure generic description (GNOME, only GenericName)? Why do think
> that Umbrello is the sole application within KDE that deserve special
> treatment/inconsistency?
> I don't find your reasons very good, please revert.
> > I think people would object to duplication and wide menus.
> Which was not the case with my commit.
> > Arn't we in the middle of a string freeze just now?
> Perhaps you noticed that I added today many missing generic menu
> descriptions and in very few cases changed existing ones. That happend
> after asking on the translators mailing list if that would be a big
> problem. I didn't see negative comments about, after all it's at maximum
> one changed/new string per applica- tion if any which is visible to every
> user even when he doesn't use the apps.
> Bye,
>    Steve
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