This is not working [for me]

[Albert Astals Cid]

El Dimarts, 3 de març de 2015, a les 01:15:14, Aleix Pol va escriure:
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 8:28 PM, Albert Astals Cid <aacid at kde.org> wrote:
> > El Dilluns, 2 de març de 2015, a les 17:06:12, Aleix Pol va escriure:
> >> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 11:00 PM, Albert Astals Cid <aacid at kde.org> wrote:
> >> > I don't know how to fix it, I am not even sure what's wrong, but this
> >> > was
> >> > supposed to be a release team, and to me it seems that it's me being
> >> > the
> >> > bad guy and everyone else just pushing in for their own agenda.
> >> > 
> >> > Of course this may be my own perception of the thing, but it's
> >> > affecting
> >> > my
> >> > mood and willigness to work on stuff so I decided it made sense to
> >> > bring
> >> > it
> >> > up.
> >> > 
> >> > Some days this week i really wanted to step down for 15.04 but at the
> >> > end
> >> > i
> >> > convinced myself it's too close and I don't want to leave anyone with
> >> > no
> >> > floor to stand on.
> >> > 
> >> > But we need to make this work better for my sanity for 15.08 otherwise
> >> > I'm
> >> > out.
> >> > 
> >> > Does anyone have any magic solution?
> >> > 
> >> > Cheers,
> >> > 
> >> >   Albert
> >> 
> >> Hi Albert,
> >> I'm really sorry you're not enjoying the release work. I don't think
> >> anyone perceived you as the bad guy though.
> > 
> > Have you ever been a position you're the only person saying "no"? You'll
> > quickly see how you're the bad guy.
> 
> I understand that.
> 
> >> Having the feeling there's somebody's agenda is definitely
> >> uncomfortable, but I don't think it's the case here. If anything, what
> >> we're experiencing is a growth in the KDE Applications releases
> >> demand. Big projects such as Dolphin and KDE Telepathy are trying to
> >> position themselves in the new set up and that took some effort.
> >> 
> >> For 15.08, I would suggest to gather during the feature freeze in a
> >> hangouts/mumble meeting and discuss things over, to see what's going
> >> on. I think it will be easier to know what to face this way rather
> >> than waiting for the first beta releases.
> > 
> > I don't see how this helps at all. We are not doing feature based
> > releases, we are doing time based releases. And those releases are
> > shorter than ever so that when you miss a release you don't feel the need
> > to push everyone so that your app/feature gets in because there will be
> > another one in a short time.
> > 
> > Albert
> 
> It's just an idea, I don't have your experience in the subject. I
> proposed it because I saw different topics arising:
> * There's specific groups that could have used some attention or
> guidance might have come useful.
> * We are talking about acting like a team, discussing about the
> subject beforehand can help to see them coming.

Ok, i guess when you said "during the feature freeze" you meant "before the 
feature freeze"?

I mean after the feature freeze seems a bad time to meet, we should meet 
before it to make sure everybody meets it just fine, no?

Or did I mistundertood you?

Cheers,
  Albert

> 
> On the other hand you are correct. It's time-based releases and we can
> just wait and put a red light on the feature freeze.
> 
> Aleix
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