This is not working [for me]

[Aleix Pol]

On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 1:16 AM, Albert Astals Cid <aacid at kde.org> wrote:
> El Dimarts, 3 de març de 2015, a les 01:15:14, Aleix Pol va escriure:
>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 8:28 PM, Albert Astals Cid <aacid at kde.org> wrote:
>> > El Dilluns, 2 de març de 2015, a les 17:06:12, Aleix Pol va escriure:
>> >> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 11:00 PM, Albert Astals Cid <aacid at kde.org> wrote:
>> >> > I don't know how to fix it, I am not even sure what's wrong, but this
>> >> > was
>> >> > supposed to be a release team, and to me it seems that it's me being
>> >> > the
>> >> > bad guy and everyone else just pushing in for their own agenda.
>> >> >
>> >> > Of course this may be my own perception of the thing, but it's
>> >> > affecting
>> >> > my
>> >> > mood and willigness to work on stuff so I decided it made sense to
>> >> > bring
>> >> > it
>> >> > up.
>> >> >
>> >> > Some days this week i really wanted to step down for 15.04 but at the
>> >> > end
>> >> > i
>> >> > convinced myself it's too close and I don't want to leave anyone with
>> >> > no
>> >> > floor to stand on.
>> >> >
>> >> > But we need to make this work better for my sanity for 15.08 otherwise
>> >> > I'm
>> >> > out.
>> >> >
>> >> > Does anyone have any magic solution?
>> >> >
>> >> > Cheers,
>> >> >
>> >> >   Albert
>> >>
>> >> Hi Albert,
>> >> I'm really sorry you're not enjoying the release work. I don't think
>> >> anyone perceived you as the bad guy though.
>> >
>> > Have you ever been a position you're the only person saying "no"? You'll
>> > quickly see how you're the bad guy.
>>
>> I understand that.
>>
>> >> Having the feeling there's somebody's agenda is definitely
>> >> uncomfortable, but I don't think it's the case here. If anything, what
>> >> we're experiencing is a growth in the KDE Applications releases
>> >> demand. Big projects such as Dolphin and KDE Telepathy are trying to
>> >> position themselves in the new set up and that took some effort.
>> >>
>> >> For 15.08, I would suggest to gather during the feature freeze in a
>> >> hangouts/mumble meeting and discuss things over, to see what's going
>> >> on. I think it will be easier to know what to face this way rather
>> >> than waiting for the first beta releases.
>> >
>> > I don't see how this helps at all. We are not doing feature based
>> > releases, we are doing time based releases. And those releases are
>> > shorter than ever so that when you miss a release you don't feel the need
>> > to push everyone so that your app/feature gets in because there will be
>> > another one in a short time.
>> >
>> > Albert
>>
>> It's just an idea, I don't have your experience in the subject. I
>> proposed it because I saw different topics arising:
>> * There's specific groups that could have used some attention or
>> guidance might have come useful.
>> * We are talking about acting like a team, discussing about the
>> subject beforehand can help to see them coming.
>
> Ok, i guess when you said "during the feature freeze" you meant "before the
> feature freeze"?
>
> I mean after the feature freeze seems a bad time to meet, we should meet
> before it to make sure everybody meets it just fine, no?
>
> Or did I mistundertood you?
>
> Cheers,
>   Albert
>
>>
>> On the other hand you are correct. It's time-based releases and we can
>> just wait and put a red light on the feature freeze.
>>
>> Aleix
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Eh... yes, of course. I meant before the freeze. Sorry.

Aleix