PIM is not good. Would adding an extra RC help?

[Albert Astals Cid]

El Diumenge, 6 d'abril de 2014, a les 13:09:33, Daniel Vrátil va escriure:
> Hi Albert,
> 
> On Saturday 05 of April 2014 16:40:24 Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > ** Please CC me and r-t list, i'm not subscribed to pim list. **
> > 
> > Hello guys, as I hope you all know this Wednesday we are supposed to tag
> > the final release for 4.13.
> > 
> > I am sending this email to ask for opinions on the value of adding an
> > extra
> > RC and delaying the 4.13.0 release for at least a week.
> > 
> > I'm going to explain why I'd like this to happen.
> > 
> > Since the update to 4.13 Beta I've been having lots of CPU and I/O
> > problems
> > in pim related stuff, most notably akonadi_baloo_indexer,
> > akonadi_maildir_resource & friends.
> > 
> > On every release i've complained on IRC to be told "oh yes, we just fixed
> > this thing and will be available on the next release".
> > 
> > But here I am, using 4.13 RC and with even KMail closed
> > mysqld+akonadiserver+akonadi_maildir_resource are using 100% of one of my
> > CPU cores and writing/reading around 10MB/s to my slow disks.
> > 
> > I find this unacceptable.
> > 
> > So yesterday I complained again on IRC, and was told again "oh yes, we
> > just
> > fixed this thing and will be available on the next release".
> > 
> > Just that this is the last bullet we have for fixing stuff, if it turns
> > out
> > it's like all the previous 3 times i've been told that sentence, we'll end
> > up with a bad 4.13 pim release, and even it may not linked to it (or it
> > may, i have no clue), people will blame Baloo, and developers will get sad
> > and will be less motivated to be on stuff and bugs will be fixed more
> > slowly, you know that, down spiral of sadness for everyone.
> > 
> > So I am going to ask:
> >  * Are you guys really sure this problem is fixed with the current git
> >  code?
> > 
> > If so please tell me the repos I have to recompile and I will try seeing
> > if
> > it fixes my problems
> 
> So you complain about this maildir problem and when I told you the problem
> was fixed after Akonadi 1.12 was released, you didn't even go and try the
> fixes, yet you still complain that you have a problem .... ?

Hmmm, I think you got offended here. That was not at all my intention.

I'm not complaining. I'm asking to you guys if you think that adding an extra 
RC would help us delivering a more stable product or not.

> Please run Akonadi from latest .12 branch. If the problem is gone, there's
> no need to delay any release. 

Ok, will do.

Cheers,
  Albert

> If you still have the problem, I'm 99% sure
> it's a problem in Akonadi server and can be fixed in couple days before I
> do 1.12.1 release which we need to anyway in order to ship top-notch KDE
> PIM experience in 4.13.  If everything is fine on your side, I'll do 1.12.1
> on Monday.
> 
> Cheers,
> Dan
> 
> >  * Do you guys think this is just my problem and I can be just ignored? I
> > 
> > can take that too, if you feel like everybody is using kmail 4.13 without
> > any problems and i'm just an outlier with problems I am willing to accept
> > that I'm unlucky and do the release as planned.
> > 
> >  * Do you guys think adding an extra RC would help?
> > 
> > Of course you know where I am if you need me compiling something or giving
> > you extra information about my setup.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> >   Albert
> > 
> > P.S: No, I haven't opened a bug, the reason is that every time i
> > complained
> > i've been told that it had already been fixed, so it seemed not necessary.
> > 
> > ** Please CC me and r-t list, i'm not subscribed to pim list. **
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