Next steps: Forum, Wiki, e.V.

[Gregor Rosenauer]

Ich finde generell nextcloud sehr gut, und seit einigen Jahren gibt es mit
collective auch ein Wiki dazu:

https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/collectives

Gute Einführung auf Deutsch:
https://www.hkn.de/nextcloud/nextcloud-collective-wiki

Für Diskussionen bietet sich natürlich Discourse an:
https://www.discourse.org/

Hosting ist eine andere Frage, aber ich glaube für den Anfang bieten beide
genannten Projekte gratis oder sehr günstige Cloud Zugänge an.

Lg
Gregor

Björn Balazs <b at lazs.de> schrieb am Mi., 26. Juli 2023, 18:49:

> Moin!
>
> I was looking at FLOSS project management software today, since I thought
> we might be better off with a combination of Wiki and PM, than with a
> Mediawiki. But: I did not find anything convincing... What are your
> experiences? Anything you like and would suggest?
>
> Cheers,
> Björn
>
>
> Am 26. Juli 2023 11:04:36 MESZ schrieb Christian Buggedei <
> christian at buggedei.de>:
>
>> Good morning!
>>
>> I would love to help out with the experience as a Product Person and
>> moderate a few techniques to collect and sort through the ideas, figuring
>> out implementation steps, user and corporate benefits, etc.
>>
>> That said, I am a bit swamped with the day job, but I should be able to
>> get it together for a few hours per month at the very least.
>>
>> Also: I love Discourse, and have a slight dislike for MediaWiki :)
>> (Although I don't have a particular recommendation for alternatives. Maybe
>> Obsidian online?)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Christian Buggedei
>>
>> On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 at 15:21, Björn Balazs <b at lazs.de> wrote:
>>
>>> tl;dr: I am overwhelmed by the feedback on the initiative and think we
>>> should
>>> take the next step and formalize as an e.V. To document discussions and
>>> decisions we will establish some services on our own premise.
>>>
>>>
>>> Moin!
>>>
>>> Next to the meetings I organized and offered here, I did lots of direct
>>> meetings and the feedback I get so far is just great and much better
>>> than I
>>> could have dreamt of.
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot.
>>>
>>> The impression I get is that there is a need for a facilitator to make
>>> all the
>>> great concepts that exist around the basic idea of a de-centralized
>>> personal
>>> data storage become real.
>>>
>>> So far most initiatives focus on technical realizations. What is missing
>>> is a
>>> plan to implement these solutions as a new normal in society. The ideas
>>> I
>>> present mostly focus on a strategy for exactly this implementation in
>>> society.
>>> As I outlined, we will need strong partners to get this done. This
>>> implies
>>> that we - the different initiatives - need to do this together. It is
>>> only one
>>> shot we have.
>>>
>>> In order to move forward, I think we need to institutionalize further.
>>> As I
>>> live in Germany, I suggest to create an e.V. as a legal entity. This
>>> will
>>> allow us to handle money and formalize our goals and the way we work
>>> together
>>> further.
>>>
>>> The goal of this e.V. would be something like:
>>> Prepare the creation and implementation of a NGO that - on behalf of the
>>> data
>>> owners - provides a marketplace for accessing and working with user data
>>> without compromising privacy.
>>>
>>> Of course, before we can do so we need to continue discussions and
>>> document
>>> the ideas further. So the next steps will be to create a space and
>>> install
>>> tools for this.
>>>
>>> I think there are two things we need most urgently:
>>> - A wiki for documentation (Mediawiki [1]?)
>>> - A forum to discuss (basically as substitute for this mailing list -
>>> Discourse?)
>>>
>>> Anything else you think we need or opinions on the suggested
>>> technologies?
>>>
>>> We will use the domain privact.org for that. This is not a decision on
>>> the
>>> final name though.
>>>
>>> I will order some Hetzner cloudspace for that (Again opinions on that?).
>>> And I
>>> hope that Frank and other volunteers help to get these services running.
>>> Anybody else willing to help on that task?
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Björn
>>>
>>>
>>> [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki/de
>>> [2] https://github.com/discourse/discourse
>>> [3] https://www.hetzner.com/--
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