Next steps: Forum, Wiki, e.V.

Björn Balazs b at lazs.de
Wed Jul 26 17:49:43 BST 2023


Moin!

I was looking at FLOSS project management software today, since I thought we might be better off with a combination of Wiki and PM, than with a Mediawiki. But: I did not find anything convincing... What are your experiences? Anything you like and would suggest?

Cheers,
Björn

Am 26. Juli 2023 11:04:36 MESZ schrieb Christian Buggedei <christian at buggedei.de>:
> Good morning!
>
>I would love to help out with the experience as a Product Person and
>moderate a few techniques to collect and sort through the ideas, figuring
>out implementation steps, user and corporate benefits, etc.
>
>That said, I am a bit swamped with the day job, but I should be able to get
>it together for a few hours per month at the very least.
>
>Also: I love Discourse, and have a slight dislike for MediaWiki :)
>(Although I don't have a particular recommendation for alternatives. Maybe
>Obsidian online?)
>
>Cheers,
>Christian Buggedei
>
>On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 at 15:21, Björn Balazs <b at lazs.de> wrote:
>
>> tl;dr: I am overwhelmed by the feedback on the initiative and think we
>> should
>> take the next step and formalize as an e.V. To document discussions and
>> decisions we will establish some services on our own premise.
>>
>>
>> Moin!
>>
>> Next to the meetings I organized and offered here, I did lots of direct
>> meetings and the feedback I get so far is just great and much better than
>> I
>> could have dreamt of.
>>
>> Thanks a lot.
>>
>> The impression I get is that there is a need for a facilitator to make all
>> the
>> great concepts that exist around the basic idea of a de-centralized
>> personal
>> data storage become real.
>>
>> So far most initiatives focus on technical realizations. What is missing
>> is a
>> plan to implement these solutions as a new normal in society. The ideas I
>> present mostly focus on a strategy for exactly this implementation in
>> society.
>> As I outlined, we will need strong partners to get this done. This implies
>> that we - the different initiatives - need to do this together. It is only
>> one
>> shot we have.
>>
>> In order to move forward, I think we need to institutionalize further. As
>> I
>> live in Germany, I suggest to create an e.V. as a legal entity. This will
>> allow us to handle money and formalize our goals and the way we work
>> together
>> further.
>>
>> The goal of this e.V. would be something like:
>> Prepare the creation and implementation of a NGO that - on behalf of the
>> data
>> owners - provides a marketplace for accessing and working with user data
>> without compromising privacy.
>>
>> Of course, before we can do so we need to continue discussions and
>> document
>> the ideas further. So the next steps will be to create a space and install
>> tools for this.
>>
>> I think there are two things we need most urgently:
>> - A wiki for documentation (Mediawiki [1]?)
>> - A forum to discuss (basically as substitute for this mailing list -
>> Discourse?)
>>
>> Anything else you think we need or opinions on the suggested technologies?
>>
>> We will use the domain privact.org for that. This is not a decision on
>> the
>> final name though.
>>
>> I will order some Hetzner cloudspace for that (Again opinions on that?).
>> And I
>> hope that Frank and other volunteers help to get these services running.
>> Anybody else willing to help on that task?
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Björn
>>
>>
>> [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki/de
>> [2] https://github.com/discourse/discourse
>> [3] https://www.hetzner.com/--
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