Minutes Monday Plasma Meeting

Sebastian Kügler sebas at kde.org
Mon Oct 17 15:17:21 UTC 2016 

Plasma Meeting 17th October, 2016, 12:00, via IRC

present: mgraesslin, notmart, romangg, bshah, kbroulik, d_ed, Riddell, Sho, 
sebas

mgraesslin:
* send pointer events to all wl_pointer (D3016)
  Diff 3016 "[server] Send pointer events to all wl_pointer resources of a 
client" [Closed] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3016
* Add api to get a KWayland::Client::ShellSurface from QWindow (D3018)
  Diff 3018 "[client] Add methods to get ShellSurface from a QWindow" [Closed] 
https://phabricator.kde.org/D3018
* Implemented the generic window property in 
KWayland::Server::QtSurfaceExtension (D3045)
  Diff 3045 "[server] Implement the generic window property in 
QtSurfaceExtension" [Closed] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3045
* Protocol extension to pass icons from KWin to Plasma (D3049, D3050)
  Diff 3049 "Support passing generic QIcon through PlasmaWindow interface" 
[Closed] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3049
  Diff 3050 "Use new PlasmaWindowInterface::setIcon" [Closed] https://
phabricator.kde.org/D3050
* Set color scheme X property in plasma-integration to support all windows and 
don't restrict to Kstyle-based widget styles (D3044)
  Diff 3044 "Set color scheme X property in the X11Integration" [Closed] 
https://phabricator.kde.org/D3044
* Support color schemes hint on Wayland through a generic window property 
(D3046, D3047)
  Diff 3046 "Pass color scheme hint to Wayland compositor using window 
property" [Closed] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3046
* Fix shortcut triggering with shift+letter on Wayland (D3015)
* window icon is set to generic wayland icon if we cannot find the desktop 
file (D3023)
  Diff 3047 "Support custom color scheme for Wayland windows" [Closed] 
https://phabricator.kde.org/D3047
* Fix glBlitFramebuffer for per-output rendering (D3056)
* Pass the current output geometry to ScreenPaintData (D3058)
  Diff 3015 "Fix shortcut triggering with shift+letter" [Closed] https://
phabricator.kde.org/D3015
* Make screenshot effect work with multiple output rendering (D3059)
  Diff 3023 "Set icon to wayland if desktop file is not found" [Closed] 
https://phabricator.kde.org/D3023
  Diff 3056 "Fix glBlitFramebuffer for per-output rendering" [Closed] https://
phabricator.kde.org/D3056
  Diff 3058 "Pass the current output geometry to ScreenPaintData" [Closed] 
https://phabricator.kde.org/D3058
  Diff 3059 "[effects] Make screenshot effect work with multiple output 
rendering" [Closed] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3059
things not yet merged:
* move windows in widget style (D3019)
  Diff 3019 "[kstyle] Implement window moving on Wayland" [Needs Review] 
https://phabricator.kde.org/D3019
* auto-hiding panels on Wayland (D3007, D3080)
  Diff 3007 "Add auto-hiding panel support to PlasmaShellSurface interface" 
[Accepted] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3007
  Diff 3080 "Panel auto hide support for Wayland panels" [Needs Review] 
https://phabricator.kde.org/D3080
* make Wayland panels take focus (D3035, D3036, D3037)
  Diff 3035 "Add request to have focus in a PlasmaShellSurface of Role Panel" 
[Accepted] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3035
  Diff 3036 "Support forceActiveWindow for Panels" [Accepted] https://
phabricator.kde.org/D3036
* make KRunner a panel (D3038)
  Diff 3037 "Support docks which take input" [Accepted] https://
phabricator.kde.org/D3037
  Diff 3038 "[krunner] Make KRunner on Wayland a Panel" [Accepted] https://
phabricator.kde.org/D3038

notmart:
* another plasmashell multiscreen bugfix: fix when screen ids are bigger then 
screen count
* fix "default" color scheme kcm setting everything black
* Wayland: Doalog implements shadows and moves itself with plasmashell 
protocol, ugly hack in plasmashell to inject kwayland usage gone (as kwayland 
is a framework now, so libplasma can optionally depend on it)
* triaging
* fixed svg wallpaper thumbnails
* support for panel size/offset/alignment in new javascript api
* kwayland support for Dialog (position and shadows) move from hack into 
plasma-workspace to plasma-framework
** Kirigami2: continue with the Desktop theme QQC2
** prototype of scrollbars "looking desktop but not too much, working with 
VDG" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTa2NBUxYVY
** components now themed:
** Button.qml
** CheckBox.qml
** CheckIndicator.qml
** Label.qml
** ProgressBar.qml
** RadioButton.qml
** RadioIndicator.qml
** ScrollBar.qml
** Slider.qml
** SwitchIndicator.qml
** Switch.qml
** TextField.qml

romangg:
- talks with vdg about a frame redesign of the taskbar tooltip (frames only)
- lockscreen/switchsession subpage improvements. already merged or already 
accepted and about to merge
- many bug reports (in particular wayland stuff): https://goo.gl/HfeJhz
- fix for meta not closing launchers: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/
129204/
- working on solving the issue raised by d_ed https://phabricator.kde.org/
D3079

bshah:
- work on boot.img to eliminate lxc stuff
- this week I would like to finish this boot.img stuff, meaning plain rootfs, 
no container
- worked on panel autohide,  but it didn't reach anywhere.. (panel autohide)

kbroulik:
* I contacted KDE e.V. with the Plasma sprint, and they created a page for it: 
https://reimbursements.kde.org/events/25
Should I make a wiki page with more infos? Unfortunately the reimbursements 
page doesnt support line breaks in the description, making it a bit cluttered, 
lol
* Friday was KDE 20th Birthday party in Karlsruhe, together with mgraesslin, 
Sput, david_ka and others, was really nice evening :)
* Managed to use Qt 5.7's Global Menu stuff in our Platform Theme (by using 
private Qt headers which we do in the QPT anyway)
* Just managed to get the window decoration menu button to work \o/ http://
wstaw.org/m/2016/10/17/Screenshot_20161017_120312.png
* Will start looking into a global menu applet soon-ish

d_ed:
* I fixed a nasty crash in KPackage::install
* and I've been working on SDDM this week. I've restored multi-seat
* spent a while debugging rootless Xorg which SDDM kind of want so they can 
re-use the same code structure for wayland and X; I know what's wrong, but 
fixing requries more restructuring

Riddell:
* 5.8.1 out last week, 5.8.2 out tomorrow
* next meeting in 30 mins 5.9 kickoff, agenda here https://share.kde.org/
public.php?service=documents&t=GlGpnbEVHvZmeIC

Sho:
* Held KDE birthday event in Seoul to great success, http://imgur.com/a/zB5Tu 
& http://imgur.com/a/1w7sg
* Fixed Appdash showing in Task Manager by applying Dialog fix also to 
dashboard window class
* Started research for Yakuake UI rewrite
* Meetings with employer in prep for Plasma 5.9 kickoff
* Currently investigating reported apparently serious Activity Pager crash 
with Qt 5.7 + Plasma 5.8.1

sebas:
* kscreen bug triaging (mainly updating old reports, but also fixed a few new 
ones)
* kscreen UI redesign: more overall porting of the old kcm codebase to QtQuick
* kscreen OSD rework: wayland-compatible rework of the OSDs, mostly works but 
has some pretty big bugs that need investigating
* reviewed a ton of mgraesslin's patches

-- 
sebas

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Plasma Meeting 17th October, 2016, 12:00, via IRC

present: mgraesslin, notmart, romangg, bshah, kbroulik, d_ed, Riddell, Sho, sebas

mgraesslin:

* send pointer events to all wl_pointer (D3016)
  Diff 3016 "[server] Send pointer events to all wl_pointer resources of a client" [Closed] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3016
* Add api to get a KWayland::Client::ShellSurface from QWindow (D3018)
  Diff 3018 "[client] Add methods to get ShellSurface from a QWindow" [Closed] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3018
* Implemented the generic window property in KWayland::Server::QtSurfaceExtension (D3045)
  Diff 3045 "[server] Implement the generic window property in QtSurfaceExtension" [Closed] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3045
* Protocol extension to pass icons from KWin to Plasma (D3049, D3050)
  Diff 3049 "Support passing generic QIcon through PlasmaWindow interface" [Closed] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3049
  Diff 3050 "Use new PlasmaWindowInterface::setIcon" [Closed] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3050
* Set color scheme X property in plasma-integration to support all windows and don't restrict to Kstyle-based widget styles (D3044)
  Diff 3044 "Set color scheme X property in the X11Integration" [Closed] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3044
* Support color schemes hint on Wayland through a generic window property (D3046, D3047)
  Diff 3046 "Pass color scheme hint to Wayland compositor using window property" [Closed] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3046
* Fix shortcut triggering with shift+letter on Wayland (D3015)
* window icon is set to generic wayland icon if we cannot find the desktop file (D3023)
  Diff 3047 "Support custom color scheme for Wayland windows" [Closed] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3047
* Fix glBlitFramebuffer for per-output rendering (D3056)
* Pass the current output geometry to ScreenPaintData (D3058)
  Diff 3015 "Fix shortcut triggering with shift+letter" [Closed] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3015
* Make screenshot effect work with multiple output rendering (D3059)
  Diff 3023 "Set icon to wayland if desktop file is not found" [Closed] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3023
  Diff 3056 "Fix glBlitFramebuffer for per-output rendering" [Closed] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3056
  Diff 3058 "Pass the current output geometry to ScreenPaintData" [Closed] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3058
  Diff 3059 "[effects] Make screenshot effect work with multiple output rendering" [Closed] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3059
things not yet merged:
* move windows in widget style (D3019)
  Diff 3019 "[kstyle] Implement window moving on Wayland" [Needs Review] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3019
* auto-hiding panels on Wayland (D3007, D3080)
  Diff 3007 "Add auto-hiding panel support to PlasmaShellSurface interface" [Accepted] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3007
  Diff 3080 "Panel auto hide support for Wayland panels" [Needs Review] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3080
* make Wayland panels take focus (D3035, D3036, D3037)
  Diff 3035 "Add request to have focus in a PlasmaShellSurface of Role Panel" [Accepted] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3035
  Diff 3036 "Support forceActiveWindow for Panels" [Accepted] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3036
* make KRunner a panel (D3038)
  Diff 3037 "Support docks which take input" [Accepted] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3037
  Diff 3038 "[krunner] Make KRunner on Wayland a Panel" [Accepted] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3038

notmart:
* another plasmashell multiscreen bugfix: fix when screen ids are bigger then screen count
* fix "default" color scheme kcm setting everything black
* Wayland: Doalog implements shadows and moves itself with plasmashell protocol, ugly hack in plasmashell to inject kwayland usage gone (as kwayland is a framework now, so libplasma can optionally depend on it)
* triaging
* fixed svg wallpaper thumbnails
* support for panel size/offset/alignment in new javascript api
* kwayland support for Dialog (position and shadows) move from hack into plasma-workspace to plasma-framework
** Kirigami2: continue with the Desktop theme QQC2
** prototype of scrollbars "looking desktop but not too much, working with VDG" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTa2NBUxYVY
** components now themed:
** Button.qml
** CheckBox.qml
** CheckIndicator.qml
** Label.qml
** ProgressBar.qml
** RadioButton.qml
** RadioIndicator.qml
** ScrollBar.qml
** Slider.qml
** SwitchIndicator.qml
** Switch.qml
** TextField.qml

romangg:
- talks with vdg about a frame redesign of the taskbar tooltip (frames only)
- lockscreen/switchsession subpage improvements. already merged or already accepted and about to merge
- many bug reports (in particular wayland stuff): https://goo.gl/HfeJhz
- fix for meta not closing launchers: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/129204/
- working on solving the issue raised by d_ed https://phabricator.kde.org/D3079

bshah:
- work on boot.img to eliminate lxc stuff
- this week I would like to finish this boot.img stuff, meaning plain rootfs, no container
- worked on panel autohide,  but it didn't reach anywhere.. (panel autohide)

kbroulik:
* I contacted KDE e.V. with the Plasma sprint, and they created a page for it: https://reimbursements.kde.org/events/25
Should I make a wiki page with more infos? Unfortunately the reimbursements page doesnt support line breaks in the description, making it a bit cluttered, lol
* Friday was KDE 20th Birthday party in Karlsruhe, together with mgraesslin, Sput, david_ka and others, was really nice evening :)
* Managed to use Qt 5.7's Global Menu stuff in our Platform Theme (by using private Qt headers which we do in the QPT anyway)
* Just managed to get the window decoration menu button to work \o/ http://wstaw.org/m/2016/10/17/Screenshot_20161017_120312.png
* Will start looking into a global menu applet soon-ish

d_ed:
* I fixed a nasty crash in KPackage::install
* and I've been working on SDDM this week. I've restored multi-seat
* spent a while debugging rootless Xorg which SDDM kind of want so they can re-use the same code structure for wayland and X; I know what's wrong, but fixing requries more restructuring

Riddell:
* 5.8.1 out last week, 5.8.2 out tomorrow
* next meeting in 30 mins 5.9 kickoff, agenda here https://share.kde.org/public.php?service=documents&t=GlGpnbEVHvZmeIC

Sho:
* Held KDE birthday event in Seoul to great success, http://imgur.com/a/zB5Tu & http://imgur.com/a/1w7sg
* Fixed Appdash showing in Task Manager by applying Dialog fix also to dashboard window class
* Started research for Yakuake UI rewrite
* Meetings with employer in prep for Plasma 5.9 kickoff
* Currently investigating reported apparently serious Activity Pager crash with Qt 5.7 + Plasma 5.8.1


sebas:
* kscreen bug triaging (mainly updating old reports, but also fixed a few new ones)
* kscreen UI redesign: more overall porting of the old kcm codebase to QtQuick
* kscreen OSD rework: wayland-compatible rework of the OSDs, mostly works but has some pretty big bugs that need investigating
* reviewed a ton of mgraesslin's patches


IRC log:


[12:01:53] <sebas> Plasma meeting is NOW!
[12:01:56] <mgraesslin> here
[12:01:57] <sebas> Who participates?
[12:02:19] <notmart_>  /me
[12:02:25] -*- bshah
[12:02:37] -*- kbroulik
[12:02:50] <romangg> me
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[12:03:15] <d_ed> me
[12:03:21] <Riddell> hi
[12:03:46] <sebas> mgraesslin, notmart, romangg, bshah, kbroulik, d_ed, Riddell, sebas
[12:03:51] <sebas> so mgraesslin starts
[12:03:54] <mgraesslin> all right I start
[12:04:07] <Sho_> here
[12:04:09] <Sho_> sorry
[12:04:10] <mgraesslin> things already merged:
[12:04:14] <mgraesslin> * send pointer events to all wl_pointer (D3016)
[12:04:14] <sKreamer> Diff 3016 "[server] Send pointer events to all wl_pointer resources of a client" [Closed] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3016
[12:04:15] <mgraesslin> * Add api to get a KWayland::Client::ShellSurface from QWindow (D3018)
[12:04:16] <sKreamer> Diff 3018 "[client] Add methods to get ShellSurface from a QWindow" [Closed] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3018
[12:04:17] <mgraesslin> * Implemented the generic window property in KWayland::Server::QtSurfaceExtension (D3045)
[12:04:17] <sKreamer> Diff 3045 "[server] Implement the generic window property in QtSurfaceExtension" [Closed] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3045
[12:04:19] <mgraesslin> * Protocol extension to pass icons from KWin to Plasma (D3049, D3050)
[12:04:19] <sKreamer> Diff 3049 "Support passing generic QIcon through PlasmaWindow interface" [Closed] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3049
[12:04:19] <sKreamer> Diff 3050 "Use new PlasmaWindowInterface::setIcon" [Closed] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3050
[12:04:20] <mgraesslin> * Set color scheme X property in plasma-integration to support all windows and don't restrict to Kstyle-based widget styles (D3044)
[12:04:20] <sKreamer> Diff 3044 "Set color scheme X property in the X11Integration" [Closed] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3044
[12:04:22] <mgraesslin> * Support color schemes hint on Wayland through a generic window property (D3046, D3047)
[12:04:22] <sKreamer> Diff 3046 "Pass color scheme hint to Wayland compositor using window property" [Closed] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3046
[12:04:23] <mgraesslin> * Fix shortcut triggering with shift+letter on Wayland (D3015)
[12:04:25] <mgraesslin> * window icon is set to generic wayland icon if we cannot find the desktop file (D3023)
[12:04:25] <sKreamer> Diff 3047 "Support custom color scheme for Wayland windows" [Closed] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3047
[12:04:26] <mgraesslin> * Fix glBlitFramebuffer for per-output rendering (D3056)
[12:04:28] <mgraesslin> * Pass the current output geometry to ScreenPaintData (D3058)
[12:04:28] <sKreamer> Diff 3015 "Fix shortcut triggering with shift+letter" [Closed] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3015
[12:04:29] <mgraesslin> * Make screenshot effect work with multiple output rendering (D3059)
[12:04:31] <sKreamer> Diff 3023 "Set icon to wayland if desktop file is not found" [Closed] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3023
[12:04:34] <sKreamer> Diff 3056 "Fix glBlitFramebuffer for per-output rendering" [Closed] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3056
[12:04:37] <sKreamer> Diff 3058 "Pass the current output geometry to ScreenPaintData" [Closed] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3058
[12:04:40] <sKreamer> Diff 3059 "[effects] Make screenshot effect work with multiple output rendering" [Closed] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3059
[12:04:50] <mgraesslin> things not yet merged:
[12:04:54] <mgraesslin> * move windows in widget style (D3019)
[12:04:54] <sKreamer> Diff 3019 "[kstyle] Implement window moving on Wayland" [Needs Review] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3019
[12:04:55] <mgraesslin> * auto-hiding panels on Wayland (D3007, D3080)
[12:04:56] <sKreamer> Diff 3007 "Add auto-hiding panel support to PlasmaShellSurface interface" [Accepted] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3007
[12:04:56] <sKreamer> Diff 3080 "Panel auto hide support for Wayland panels" [Needs Review] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3080
[12:04:57] <mgraesslin> * make Wayland panels take focus (D3035, D3036, D3037)
[12:04:57] <sKreamer> Diff 3035 "Add request to have focus in a PlasmaShellSurface of Role Panel" [Accepted] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3035
[12:04:57] <sKreamer> Diff 3036 "Support forceActiveWindow for Panels" [Accepted] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3036
[12:04:59] <mgraesslin> * make KRunner a panel (D3038)
[12:04:59] <sKreamer> Diff 3037 "Support docks which take input" [Accepted] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3037
[12:05:02] <sKreamer> Diff 3038 "[krunner] Make KRunner on Wayland a Panel" [Accepted] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3038
[12:05:13] <mgraesslin> unrelated stuff: writing an article for German Linux Magazin about porting Qt applications to Wayland - if it works, payment will go to KDE e.V. as donation
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[12:05:23] <mgraesslin> questions || done
[12:05:58] <notmart_> kinda lost among all the skreamers :)
[12:06:07] <sebas> holy productivity christ
[12:06:27] <mgraesslin> skreamer is kinda not helpful here, yes
[12:07:47] <bshah> idea is you should not add description in notes ;)
[12:07:47] <notmart_> i'll take a look at the various panel ones, btw
[12:08:06] <mgraesslin> the plasma side is still missing there
[12:08:10] <sebas> skreamer is really helpful here, I've kept his explanation in the notes
[12:08:27] <sebas> notmart_
[12:08:30] <sebas> !!!
[12:08:34] <notmart_> ok
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[12:09:20] <notmart_> even tough a bit sick, managed to do some stuff
[12:09:27] <notmart_> * another plasmashell multiscreen bugfix: fix when screen ids are bigger then screen count
[12:09:28] <notmart_> * fix "default" color scheme kcm setting everything black
[12:09:30] <notmart_> * Wayland: Doalog implements shadows and moves itself with plasmashell protocol, ugly hack in plasmashell to inject kwayland usage gone (as kwayland is a framework now, so libplasma can optionally depend on it)
[12:09:31] <notmart_> * triaging
[12:09:33] <notmart_> * fixed svg wallpaper thumbnails
[12:09:34] <notmart_> * support for panel size/offset/alignment in new javascript api
[12:09:36] <notmart_> * kwayland support for Dialog (position and shadows) move from hack into plasma-workspace to plasma-framework
[12:09:37] <notmart_> ** Kirigami2: continue with the Desktop theme QQC2
[12:09:39] <notmart_> ** prototype of scrollbars "looking desktop but not too much, working with VDG" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTa2NBUxYVY
[12:09:40] <notmart_> ** components now themed:
[12:09:42] <notmart_> ** Button.qml
[12:09:43] <notmart_> ** CheckBox.qml
[12:09:45] <notmart_> ** CheckIndicator.qml
[12:09:46] <notmart_> ** Label.qml
[12:09:48] <notmart_> ** ProgressBar.qml
[12:09:49] <notmart_> ** RadioButton.qml
[12:09:51] <notmart_> ** RadioIndicator.qml
[12:09:52] <notmart_> ** ScrollBar.qml
[12:09:54] <notmart_> ** Slider.qml
[12:09:55] <notmart_> ** SwitchIndicator.qml
[12:09:57] <notmart_> ** Switch.qml
[12:09:58] <notmart_> ** TextField.qml
[12:11:05] <notmart_> the theme is still in a separate scratch repo, i think it should eventually be standalone with no deps in the end (even tough i seem to need some stuff from kirigami, such as Units)
[12:11:28] <d_ed> why do you need to depend on units?
[12:11:41] <d_ed> If you're following the desktop theme, surely everything is using the QStyle sizeHint
[12:11:51] <notmart_> for spacing in stuff
[12:12:07] <notmart_> yeah, i'll see if that wrapper exports everything needed
[12:12:33] <notmart_> even tough is not much (and i would like avoiding forking it as long as possible)
[12:12:58] <notmart_> and also vdg already wants it "a bit different" even tough i a m not sure i agree
[12:13:30] <d_ed> if you're going to do it a bit different then there's no point wrapping the qstyle api
[12:14:23] <d_ed> well, I'll take a look anyway
[12:14:29] <notmart_> well, most of the stuff must be exactly qstyled
[12:15:16] <sebas> Hm, I really like those scrollbars
[12:15:28] <sebas> Anyway, let's continue ... romangg!
[12:15:39] <romangg> - talks with vdg about a frame redesign of the taskbar tooltip (frames only)
[12:15:45] <romangg> - lockscreen/switchsession subpage improvements. already merged or already accepted and about to merge
[12:15:54] <romangg> - many bug reports (in particular wayland stuff): https://goo.gl/HfeJhz
[12:16:06] <romangg> - fix for meta not closing launchers: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/129204/
[12:16:37] <romangg> working on solving the issue raised by d_ed
[12:16:54] <sebas> which one is that?
[12:16:55] <kbroulik> frame redesign? you know I wanted to make taskbar tooltips more compact but Sho_ was against it because on his broken hardware he gets flickering if I change the tooltip sizes dynamically :P
[12:17:33] <Sho_> noting that my broken hardware is the most sold GPU in the market for 2016
[12:17:37] <romangg> sebas: https://phabricator.kde.org/D3079
[12:17:37] <sKreamer> Diff 3079 "Adapt Dashboard: Connect to new toggled signal instead of activated signal in order to initiate state change" [Needs Review] https://phabricator.kde.org/D3079
[12:17:58] <romangg> the dashboard is a little bit a specialcase doing its own stuff....
[12:18:15] <sebas> romangg: aye
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[12:18:35] <romangg> kbroulik: ok. good to know XD
[12:18:42] <sebas> bshah is next up
[12:19:01] <romangg> there is a mockup for the redesign.
[12:19:07] <romangg> yea. next
[12:19:17] <bshah> unfortunatly.. not much to update from my side this week..
[12:19:22] <bshah> just..
[12:19:43] <bshah> - work on boot.img to eliminate lxc stuff
[12:19:45] <bshah> done
[12:20:09] <sebas> bshah: what's on your plan for this week?
[12:20:19] <notmart_> containers would be made different?
[12:21:05] <bshah> sebas: this week I would like to finish this boot.img stuff
[12:21:14] <bshah> notmart_: there will not be container anymore..
[12:21:16] <bshah> just plain rootfs
[12:21:27] <notmart_> bshah: ooh, that sounds sweet :D
[12:21:27] <mgraesslin> oh, interesting
[12:21:30] <sebas> aye
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[12:21:36] <Sho_> bshah: iirc last week you also did plasma panel stuff, no?
[12:21:43] <Sho_> at least i saw you active here
[12:21:59] <bshah> hm, right I did.. but it didn't reach anywhere.. (panel autohide)
[12:22:10] <bshah> had to drop it because of my mom's health issue
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[12:22:18] <Sho_> well work is work, even if there's no result yet
[12:22:27] <sebas> indeedy
[12:22:27] <Sho_> all the hardest things can't be done in a day
[12:22:33] <sebas> kbroulik is next
[12:22:51] <kbroulik> * I contacted KDE e.V. with the Plasma sprint, and they created a page for it: https://reimbursements.kde.org/events/25
[12:22:57] <kbroulik> Should I make a wiki page with more infos? Unfortunately the reimbursements page doesnt support line breaks in the description, making it a bit cluttered, lol
[12:23:00] <kbroulik> * Friday was KDE 20th Birthday party in Karlsruhe, together with mgraesslin, Sput, david_ka and others, was really nice evening :)
[12:23:05] <kbroulik> * Managed to use Qt 5.7's Global Menu stuff in our Platform Theme (by using private Qt headers which we do in the QPT anyway)
[12:23:10] <kbroulik> * Just managed to get the window decoration menu button to work \o/ http://wstaw.org/m/2016/10/17/Screenshot_20161017_120312.png
[12:23:13] <kbroulik> * Will start looking into a global menu applet soon-ish
[12:23:42] <sebas> How does the global menu work then?
[12:23:53] <sebas> (still the libdbusmenu stuff, or something new?)
[12:24:17] <kbroulik> I resurrected the kappmenu stuff basically
[12:24:26] <sebas> Hm, what was that?
[12:24:30] <kbroulik> Qt can now talk to com.canonical.appmenu.registrar directly in Qt 5.78
[12:24:37] <kbroulik> 5.7, ie. createPlatformMenuBar will export it over dbus
[12:24:38] <d_ed> sebas: so on the server side, the current libdbusmenu - on the client side the plugin by Qt
[12:24:50] <sebas> ah, the Qt plugin is new?
[12:24:52] <kbroulik> and the server is appmenu-qt5 or sth like that
[12:25:06] <kbroulik> sebas: someone added support for dbusmenu into Qt 5.7 itself
[12:25:11] <notmart_> it's something that nowdays only qt uses tough, right?
[12:25:16] <sebas> ow nice
[12:25:22] <kbroulik> dunno actually
[12:25:26] <kbroulik> Gnome doesnt use it anymore and Unity 8 also wont
[12:25:30] <kbroulik> Unity 8 built a Qt wrapper around GMenuModel
[12:25:47] <kbroulik> besides Qt apps I also have the menu working in Chrome
[12:25:50] <Riddell> a sprint starting 6th February might interact with FOSDEM on 4/5th February
[12:25:53] <mgraesslin> well on the other hand Unity 8 won't get released any time soon
[12:25:54] <kbroulik> at one point also worked in LibreOffice but doesnt now
[12:26:11] <sebas> Unity and Qt6 may race for completion
[12:26:11] <d_ed> Gnome's menu isn't officially DBus stable, but they have a glib library.
[12:26:19] <bshah> Riddell: ohoh.. it means if I get visa properly I can attend FOSDEM :o
[12:26:21] <kbroulik> yeah which is the one Unity is using
[12:26:32] <kbroulik> Riddell: hmm, nobody objected/raised this issue when I asked on the ml..
[12:26:35] <sebas> GNOME-anything isn't stable anymore
[12:26:46] <sebas> GNOME-really-old is now the stable thing
[12:27:02] <kbroulik> I think within Kwin should be fairly trivial to get a wayland-style button for that
[12:27:18] <kbroulik> currently it calls some dbus method with some QRect and abstractclient->window()
[12:27:19] <d_ed> putting appmenu client code into kwin?
[12:27:20] <kbroulik> whcih is a WId
[12:27:22] <sebas> bshah would need to go to a beer camp for a few weeks to practice for FOSDEM though
[12:27:25] <kbroulik> d_ed: noo
[12:27:28] <kbroulik> just the calling code, I guess
[12:27:32] <kbroulik> dunno, havent really looked into wayladn yet
[12:27:36] <Sho_> btw: I crashed the Ubuntu release thread on Hacker news accidentally
[12:27:43] <kbroulik> just had the idea "export the menu via window metadata" floating in my head
[12:27:48] <Sho_> the top voted comment is me dissing them over Mir, trailed by a list of "thanks for plasma 5" replies
[12:27:52] <sebas> Sho_: link pls or it didn't happen
[12:28:02] <kbroulik>  /next
[12:28:12] <kbroulik> so, should I stick with 6-12 february now or ..?
[12:28:15] <Sho_> sebas: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12700705
[12:28:16] <sebas> d_ed, Riddell, Sho, sebas
[12:28:22] <sebas> d_ed: your turn
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[12:28:26] <d_ed> kbroulik: seems fine to me, we can go straight from one to the other
[12:28:30] <kbroulik> ok <3
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[12:28:39] <mgraesslin> kbroulik: let's clarify on mailing list whether it would conflict for any one
[12:28:48] <sebas> Sho_: same comment as on lwn? :D
[12:28:53] <d_ed> I fixed a nasty crash in KPackage::install
[12:29:09] <d_ed> and I've been working on SDDM this week. I've restored multi-seat
[12:29:24] <Sho_> sebas: I wrote the HN one first and then got lazy and pasted it into LWN :P
[12:29:43] <d_ed> and spent a while debugging rootless Xorg
[12:30:05] <sebas> Sho_: aye :D
[12:30:05] -*- Sho_ wonders how to make sddm scale sensibly on hidpi
[12:30:06] <d_ed> which SDDM kind of want so they can re-use the same code structure for wayland and X
[12:30:08] <kbroulik> mgraesslin: I can send a mail but then again there was a ml thread and nobody cared to raise that as an issue..(though I even had fosdem in my calendar but didnt bother)
[12:30:39] <d_ed> I know what's wrong, but fixing requries more restructuring
[12:31:00] <sebas> I likely won't attend FOSDEM anyway
[12:31:06] <d_ed> next
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[12:31:18] <sebas> Riddell: !
[12:31:21] -*- mgraesslin won't attend FOSDEM either - doesn't like fosdem
[12:31:21] <Sho_> neat, we might finish the meeting in time for a coffee break before the next meeting
[12:31:32] <Riddell> 5.8.1 out last week, 5.8.2 out tomorrow
[12:31:47] <sebas> I just finished a pint, I may need a break from the coffee break
[12:31:54] <Riddell> next meeting in 30 mins 5.9 kickoff, agenda here https://share.kde.org/public.php?service=documents&t=GlGpnbEVHvZmeIC
[12:31:57] <Sho_> Riddell: can you delay 5.8.2 until you had a check-in with me? i got reports about a serious crash in the activity pager ofr many many people
[12:31:58] <sebas> Also, coffee and Irc aren't mutually exclusive
[12:32:05] <Sho_> Riddell: i am investingating today
[12:32:10] <Riddell> Sho_: okay dokay
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[12:32:14] <Sho_> thx
[12:32:18] <Riddell> next..
[12:32:30] <Riddell> is sebas
[12:32:38] -*- sebas /me /me!!!
[12:32:40] <Sho_> sebas likes going last
[12:32:42] <romangg> Riddell: could the meta-key fix land in 5.8.2 if I solve the problems today?
[12:32:43] <soee> d_ed: margins for theme preview could be bigger as now some letters are almost cut off: http://i.imgur.com/m8lUc3D.png
[12:32:43] <Sho_> so maybe me?
[12:32:45] <Sho_> :P
[12:32:54] <Riddell> romangg: sure
[12:33:00] <sebas> Sho_: your turn
[12:33:03] <Sho_> * Held KDE birthday event in Seoul to great success, http://imgur.com/a/zB5Tu & http://imgur.com/a/1w7sg
[12:33:04] <Sho_> * Fixed Appdash showing in Task Manager by applying Dialog fix also to dashboard window class
[12:33:06] <Sho_> * Started research for Yakuake UI rewrite
[12:33:07] <Sho_> * Meetings with employer in prep for Plasma 5.9 kickoff
[12:33:09] <Sho_> * Currently investigating reported apparently serious Activity Pager crash with Qt 5.7 + Plasma 5.8.1
[12:33:10] <d_ed> soee: yeah, that whole KCM needs fixing
[12:33:12] <mgraesslin> romangg: I doubt that's possible as it requires plasma-framework
[12:33:27] <Sho_> questions || next
[12:33:49] <notmart_> yeah bugfix releases can't require an upgrade in frameworks deps
[12:35:37] <romangg> mgraesslin: yea right. forgot about the async release model. :| then how does this work at all in the end? would I need to support both methods in between the releases?
[12:35:47] <einar77_work> indeed not if you don't want all the distros hunting for your blood :P
[12:35:54] <sebas> also doesn't sound like it would satisfy a frameworks update release ("only really grave problems, such as crashers")
[12:36:58] <sebas> so, let me finish this meeting then ...
[12:36:59] <sebas> * kscreen bug triaging (mainly updating old reports, but also fixed a few new ones)
[12:36:59] <sebas> * kscreen UI redesign: more overall porting of the old kcm codebase to QtQuick
[12:36:59] <sebas> * kscreen OSD rework: wayland-compatible rework of the OSDs, mostly works but has some pretty big bugs that need investigating
[12:36:59] <sebas> * reviewed a ton of mgraesslin's patches
[12:37:10] <sebas> aand, done ... see you in 23 min :)

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