two exceptions for string freeze in Plasma

Sebastian Kügler sebas at kde.org
Wed Mar 9 15:00:01 UTC 2016


On Wednesday, March 09, 2016 15:25:01 Matthias Klumpp wrote:
> 2016-03-09 10:26 GMT+01:00 Sebastian Kügler <sebas at kde.org>:
> > [...]
> > I'd like to address your feedback and come to a solution everyone is happy
> > with, but for that, please provide suggestions what to use instead, and
> > don't just point out "that's bad", because the previous naming was wrong,
> > and the current isn't (AFAICS), so it's not an option to just revert, I'd
> > rather fix it.
> 
> The Freedesktop .desktop spec has a GenericName= key, which is exactly
> for the purpose of allowing to display generic names in menus if
> necessary. Values for GenericName might be "Media Player" "Info
> center", "System Settings" "File Manager" etc. while the Name key
> contains the actual application name.
> So, changing how that stuff is displayed and giving it a generic name
> key would probably make everyone happy
> (KDE could also in theory add a key X-KDE-PreferGenericName to prefer
> the GenericName over the Name key in Plasma)

I know about GenericName, but I think "Info Center" is actually fine as a Name, 
it's abstract enough and there don't seem to be any conflicting apps that I or 
any of the reviewers of my changes know of.

I find this whole discussion rather backwards. I could address the concerns by 
coming up with some random bullshit name, putting that in the Name= field and 
putting "Info Center" into GenericName= then. I still don't know which 
(actual, not constructed possible future) problem it would solve other than 
putting one of the unfounded concerns to sleep. I do know some new problems it 
creates, though. Of course it also adds a lot of work.

I simply don't want to waste my time discussing things that lead nowhere, and 
so far, this thread strongly resembles this, while almost entirely ignoring my 
initial question.  I'm leaning towards just ignoring further discussion on 
this and accepting that we keep the wrong "KDE" usage in Plasma 5.6 because 
apparently we prefer bickering over getting our shit together. Yes, this is a 
frustrating experience.

> P.S: Sidenote: Could people please add Summary= fields to .desktop
> files too?  This is the No1 reason KDE apps are rejected for
> inclusion into AppStream at time

First time I hear of the Summary field, may warrant telling more people about 
it. Which .desktop files need it, for example? (If you answer, you may as well 
create a new thread, in this thread, it's about as off-topic as it gets and 
given the depth of the emails in this thread, it will likely not be read by 
many people at this stage.)

Cheers,
-- 
sebas

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