Review Request 128073: Make Wayland optional
Pino Toscano
pino at kde.org
Wed Jun 1 09:52:37 UTC 2016
> On June 1, 2016, 8:13 a.m., Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> > -2, see also https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=361954 for explanation why we don't want this.
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> Pino Toscano wrote:
> Nowhere there is discussed (only briefly mentioned) about support with non-Linux platforms; considering libkscreen is a library used by components (and also external ones, like the display configuration in LxQt), then it makes sense to me making it portable.
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> Making wayland mandatory in libkscreen (and also in other modules, like plasma-integration, kwin, kscreenlocker) means killing outright any attempt to make Plasma build on non-Linux platforms. Please reconsider this, thanks.
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> Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> which non-Linux platforms which we care about don't have Wayland? Before making KWayland a mandatory dependency in Plasma we did check with distro packagers. Everyone was fine with it.
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> Pino Toscano wrote:
> At least to my reading of Wayland sources, to build the libraries you need features like signalfd and timerfd, which are non-POSIX and available only on Linux.
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> Can you please point me to the discussion you had with distro packagers?
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> Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> There are non-linux which have successfully run Weston on a DRM backend. That was in the news a few weeks back, see e.g. http://lists.dragonflybsd.org/pipermail/users/2016-May/249620.html
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> So let's go from "theoretically not possible" to "practically not possible". Where is it not possible to have a Wayland dependency?
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> Concerning the discussion: a quick search showed me https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-distro-packagers/2015-July/000076.html, but there must be an older one already as we use it in plasma-workspace (kscreenlocker) since Plasma 5.2 IIRC. This makes it difficult for me to point you to the discussion as it's really a long time ago.
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> Bhushan Shah wrote:
> https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/release-team/2015-July/008725.html
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> Pino Toscano wrote:
> > https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-distro-packagers/2015-July/000076.html
> > https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/release-team/2015-July/008725.html
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> The only party involved there is a Slackware packager, which is a Linux distro (where the Wayland libraries can be built fine). I don't see anyone mentioning non-Linux support.
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> > There are non-linux which have successfully run Weston on a DRM backend. That was in the news a few weeks back, see e.g. http://lists.dragonflybsd.org/pipermail/users/2016-May/249620.html
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> That's the second attempt at this I see (the first one was beginning of 2013 IIRC), yet none of this code as been upstreamed yet.
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> Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> > I don't see anyone mentioning non-Linux support.
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> All we can do is ask, sorry.
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> > That's the second attempt at this I see (the first one was beginning of 2013 IIRC), yet none of this code as been upstreamed yet.
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> Well I find it strange that I got code from BSD users for new KWin. If it were impossible to build KWin anymore that wouldn't work ;-)
> All we can do is ask, sorry.
Possibly not closing the door would help as well.
> Well I find it strange that I got code from BSD users for new KWin. If it were impossible to build KWin anymore that wouldn't work ;-)
Well, I still see that kwin has kwayland and kscreenlocker as mandatory build dependencies, and kscreenlocker has kwayland as mandatory build dependency. Hence they are using non-upstreamed patches, which is something I don't want to rely on.
Do you have pointers to these contributions for BSD?
- Pino
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On June 1, 2016, 8:10 a.m., Pino Toscano wrote:
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> (Updated June 1, 2016, 8:10 a.m.)
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> Review request for Plasma, Solid, Daniel Vrátil, Martin Gräßlin, and Sebastian Kügler.
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> Repository: libkscreen
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> Description
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> Look for KF5Wayland as optional package, not building all the Wayland-related code (backend, additions to tests, DPMS support in kscreen-doctor) if it is not available.
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> This allows libkscreen to build again on platforms without Wayland, such as non-Linux or old Linux distros.
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> Diffs
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> CMakeLists.txt 9c834d9500fa0b89764516464bd58e835671977b
> autotests/CMakeLists.txt 2c8ee3d2021b1222072d6a1faafaff1b336d27e3
> backends/CMakeLists.txt 3563e138454edcc0c874237745123b09077d067c
> src/doctor/CMakeLists.txt 7294d88af127a6604bc7e48e16342c93f152de8c
> src/doctor/doctor.cpp a156f006212e63c155a6f643929d0a5880275731
> tests/CMakeLists.txt 1489d21383e13cd1431a81d48b4a272c28302041
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> Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/128073/diff/
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> Testing
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> Builds fine.
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> Thanks,
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> Pino Toscano
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