Common purpose for the Plasma team, and VDG

[kainz.a]

Hi,

2015-11-09 22:52 GMT+01:00 David Edmundson <david at davidedmundson.co.uk>:

> the thing is that we are depanded to an programmer but the programmer
>> isn't related and when we make something by alone like the plasma theme or
>> icons we  get the message you have to ask first.
>>
>
> Yes. All of us ask permission for all changes we make. You've seen us do
> that.
> You can comment on our reviews too; any visual change normally has a
> screenshot you can comment on.
>
> Asking a different question: If in 12 months someone else redoes all the
> icons you did and you're not around, how would you want us to handle it?
>

I ask Nuon from the oxygen icon set if I can make some stuff there and only
after the ok from Nuon I was starting to do some changes.

I start this discussion cause Uri was unhappy and for me it was the best
time to start discussion about the cooperation between the plasma theme and
the VDG. My main task is to find the best way to work together and I think
we can improve it.

Yes different communication systems are one of the main problem. Different
tasks are the second problem. When I read the VDG forum threads or the
Telegram thread there was discussion about some stuff but less than 5% are
bugfixing and for me reviewboard is for bugfixing, or I use it for this
kind of stuff.

The plasma theme change from uri was only one example also the HIG's for
Plasma Mobile was nearly the same. Thomas work on the HIG's together with
Alex, Heiko, .... and as everything was discussed quite a long time Marco
wasn't involved and we had an communication issue. The good thing is that
Thomas and Marco knows as a long time and so I thing it was not that big
problem.

We now communicate via telegram we had there one generic VDG channel and
for the specific tasks one channel (plasma mobile shell, mobile app HIG,
...).

I don't want to separate between pixel and code guys. The problem is than
that an pixel topic was discussed first at the VDG and than AGAIN with the
code guys. That's not efficient. I can make an review request with an
screenshot where I wrote what in my mind should be done better and we can
discuss all together there. for bigger tasks we can have an telegram
channel and everybody how is involved should talk there.

As Valorie say: in the end we want to develop an better product and the
communication is one of the first step to get to an better product.
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