Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout

[Sebastian Kügler]

Present: apol, Riddell, bshah, Kai Uwe, notmart, mgraesslin, sebas

Date: 2 Nov, 2015

General, discussed collaboration problems with VDG
* Nobody meant to piss anybody off, in case that happened, sincere apologies
* Seems to be mostly friction in normal work, lots of stuff getting done, much 
of that
* Different communication channels for designers and devs, not much
* Communication earlier on would be nice, developers would like to be part of 
the process sooner
* There may be a cultural problem, for devs it's normal that changes need 
revision after review

apol:
* working on splitting muon
* would like feedback on the latest improvements:
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUgqacqMWhc demo video
* looked into multiscreen issues
* replacing the usage of (problematic) winId() with QWindow*

bshah:
* merged screenlocker split to make it wayland ready
* Diwali holidays coming up after Tuesday, will be off until next week

Jonathan:
* made 5.5 alpha release
* sorting out Muon (not Muon Discover!) maintenance in Kubuntu,
  * perhaps move it to unmaintained, or to KDE Applications?
* moved oxygen-font to unmaintained, while we're still using it,
  * will point cmake to last released version
* new guinea pigs as office mates for Jonathan

Kai Uwe:
* Fixed gwenview on Wayland (was calling into X for color profiles)
* ConfigPropertyMap can now be queried for immutable config options, so we 
could start thinking about reflecting config immutability in the UI (suggested 
by LiMux people)
* "Fixed" (more like workarounded) drop menu choices menu when you drop stuff 
onto a containment
* Worked on ability to install .plasmoid files by drag and drop: https://
www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MnWnt_u5dU
* https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/125898/ ← fade out text where buttons are 
in Klipper
* https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/124585/ ← finally had time to finish the 
new user switcher. Will adjust KRunner's "switch user" interface to just 
forward that to ksmserver. And will probably adjust direct users of that like 
Kickoff to use the new ksmserver dbus iface
* https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/125897/ ← oh and also that one, also 
Klipper

notmart:
* merged kwayland/kwin support for minimize animations to taskbar
* further state of the taskbar on wayland is a bit unclear, definitely some 
showstoppers left there
* added updating functionality to KPackage https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/
125976/
* started a branch with minimal-dependency Plasma mobile components to be used 
in apps

mgraesslin:
* looked at Wayland bugfixing story
* looked into Plasma freezing on Wayland: https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/
QTBUG-49272
* thumbnails for apps is difficult, may need a specific code path for 
different window types (DRM, SHM, etc.), may end up very complex
* merged threaded libinput support
* started to work on multiscreen handling (introduced new problems with some 
effects)
* errata for Intel driver issues
* Plasma places multiple views in Wayland at the same position, (bug)

sebas:
* merged KWayland screen management protocol, details: http://vizzzion.org/
blog/2015/11/screen-management-in-wayland/
* together with Marco, looked at minimal needs for apps to use Plasmaish UI
* will concentrate on libkscreen wayland backend now

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sebas

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