Noto fonts screw my system, please stop forcing fonts upon me!

Aleix Pol aleixpol at kde.org
Fri Dec 18 01:01:04 UTC 2015


On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 9:51 PM, Mark Gaiser <markg85 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've (somewhat mildly) already stated that i do not like the oxygen fonts at
> all! Just having those installed always screws up "something" on my system.
>
> So what i used to do was simply removing the oxygen fonts once an update had
> the nerves to install it again. Which would be the frameworkintegration
> package since it requires those fonts.
>
> However, recently frameworkintegration began to depend on the Noto fonts.
> That single change made me search for about 2 days for possible reasons why
> my chrome fonts where messed up [1]. Now that i know that it's
> frameworkintegration, i really do blame you folks for depending on that!
> Really, why depend on that font! And i don't care for reasons like "we can't
> satisfy everyone". I can see no valid reason for Plasma - or rather breeze -
> (that installs frameworkintegration) to depend on any font. What is wrong
> with the fonts that the system has? Let the user decide, really! don't force
> a font upon them, i'm serious about that!
>
> Fonts are a very delicate piece of software and are being used _everywhere_
> not just plasma. A choice of you folks to force a font upon the user will
> influence how other applications look. That is not up to you to decide. You
> cannot test all applications and see the impact the font might have so just
> don't even go there and stay away from fonts! You can recommend a font,
> that's fine.
>
> But in all seriousness, how can you even consider the noto font? Have you
> even seen it on the site? It has massive spacing between lines [2]. It's
> just not fit for everyday desktop usage in my opinion. Most definitely not
> on non retina displays. It "might" be better suited for small high
> resolution displays (phones, retina tablets, 4k displays in ~24 inch).
>
> I urge you, please reconsider the required font madness in
> frameworkintegration!
>
> Best regards,
> Mark
>
> [1] https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1587249
> [2] https://www.google.com/get/noto/#sans-lgc

I don't get it. Can't you just change your fonts on System Settings?

I'm flabbergasted.

Aleix


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