Delaying the Alpha1?

[Aleix Pol]

On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Sebastian Kügler <sebas at kde.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm pondering how much is the Thursday-to-be-tagged alpha worth, vs being a
> pain in the ass. We're facing a number of problems right now, let me list
> them:
>
> - We need some frameworks in newer-than-alpha1-version, notably
> kwindowsystem
> - plasma-framework needs to be repackaged, anyway
> - everybody is testing with latest frameworks, so even if we manage to
> build
> against the alpha1 of frameworks, how useful is testing then?
> - we have a whole bunch of pending work waiting
>
> You see, we've already learned by just trying to do an Alpha, and we're
> facing
> a number of problems. That's (almost) fine, it's why we do pre-releases in
> the
> first place.
> I'm pondering the possibility to delay the first alpha until we have a new
> alpha of frameworks, and then pushing it shortly thereafter, reducing the
> risk
> of a needed delta.
>
> The disadvantage is that we delay wide-spread testing, the upside is that
> the
> whole stack is much cleaner and actually possible to be sensibly packaged.
>
> This would mean:
>
> - getting all pending work in quickly, getting the split done, all before
> end
> of this month
>
> - no changes to plasma-framework or any other framework that is required
> for
> the Alpha between 28 April (tagging of frameworks alpha2) and Plasma Next
> Alpha 1 tagging (could happen the next day, or as soon as frameworks alpha2
> has been smoke-tested. Plasma Next packages have to work on latest
> frameworks
> pre-release
>
> - paying more attention to changes in frameworks to make sure the above
> works
>
> - we either skip on alpha, or we squish the schedule to make it fit
> (schedule
> could use some aligning to frameworks releases, anyway), (I'd prefer the
> latter)
>
> I'm undecided, but have been for two days, so I thought I'd bring it up
> here.
> What do you think?
> --
> sebas
>
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Hi,
Personally, I think that we will get more sadness than actual bug reports,
considering the state of the project. The needed testing at the moment is
mostly developers, and they can use git clone.

Furthermore, a way to prevent compatibility problems would be to
synchronize Plasma releases with KF5, at least for some time.

Aleix
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