Systemtray breakout notes

Martin Klapetek martin.klapetek at gmail.com
Fri Jan 17 09:20:24 UTC 2014


On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:33 PM, Mark Gaiser <markg85 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> > Seriously, have you looked at the protocol? Have you looked at the
> > implementations that would be possible? It's easy to say "I want that",
> but
> > that ignores the whole decision space for this. It's impossible to
> integrate
> > it, there's no way that's even remotely sane to implement this on
> Wayland,
> > it's impossible to do this in a way that's visually consistent, and
> that's
> > just the tip of the iceberg.
>
> That's not at all what i tried to say.
> Whatever you do in the systemtray, be extremely careful with it. You
> will alienate the users extremely fast if it doesn't work out for
> them.
> I - personally - just don't know. I just have to see it and judge
> based on that i guess :)
>

I think this is also a way to send a message to those apps still using
XEmbed - "your [systray] stuff is old and crap, use some 21st century tech,
if you're not willing to, we're not willing to keep supporting your old
stuff" (hello phoronix). The downside I can see with that is enterprise
systems, which most of those XEmbed apps target - they do not have support
for that 21st century tech (like systems running KDE3 or GNOME2), so I can
see a reason why apps keeping with XEmbed. But, you need to draw the line
somewhere. If the user fallout is too big, I think it would be good to
reconsider then (hello Skype and Dropbox).

Cheers
-- 
Martin Klapetek | KDE Developer
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