<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:33 PM, Mark Gaiser <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:markg85@gmail.com" target="_blank">markg85@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="im"><br></div><div class="im">> Seriously, have you looked at the protocol? Have you looked at the<br>
> implementations that would be possible? It's easy to say "I want that", but<br>
> that ignores the whole decision space for this. It's impossible to integrate<br>
> it, there's no way that's even remotely sane to implement this on Wayland,<br>
> it's impossible to do this in a way that's visually consistent, and that's<br>
> just the tip of the iceberg.<br>
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</div>That's not at all what i tried to say.<br>
Whatever you do in the systemtray, be extremely careful with it. You<br>
will alienate the users extremely fast if it doesn't work out for<br>
them.<br>
I - personally - just don't know. I just have to see it and judge<br>
based on that i guess :)<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I think this is also a way to send a message to those apps still using XEmbed - "your [systray] stuff is old and crap, use some 21st century tech, if you're not willing to, we're not willing to keep supporting your old stuff" (hello phoronix). The downside I can see with that is enterprise systems, which most of those XEmbed apps target - they do not have support for that 21st century tech (like systems running KDE3 or GNOME2), so I can see a reason why apps keeping with XEmbed. But, you need to draw the line somewhere. If the user fallout is too big, I think it would be good to reconsider then (hello Skype and Dropbox).</div>
</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div>-- <br><div><span style="color:rgb(102,102,102)">Martin Klapetek | KDE Developer</span></div>
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