VDG suggestions and wishes about the system tray

[David Edmundson]

On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 5:52 PM, Marco Martin <notmart at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday 26 August 2014 21:26:42 Philipp Stefan wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> the VDG told me to take a look at the system tray after the 5.0
>> releases, because even though it's a huge step forward, we felt that
>> there are some inconsistencies in how it behaves. My task was to
>> identify these issues and come up with possible solutions. We talked
>> about them already and think it is now time to come forwards with our
>> suggestions. If these ideas are accepted we'll deliver guidelines on how
>> to integrate an application nicely into the system tray.
>>
>
> so ,as a conclusion, I want to try to do a very bare bone recap:

Thanks for doing that.

> * there seems to be too many icons in the popup, especially some that don't
> really do much
> * completely hiding icons of statusnotifiers of applications gives problems,
> because makes those applications unreachable for all intents and purposes
> * however should be pretty safe to hide plasmoids: with a possible state more,
> things like the device notifier can be completely hidden when empty
> * an extra state for statusnotifiers may cause problems for unity and the two
> gtk clients.

I don't understand why we would have an extra state.

If one wants to completely hide a status notifier, don't create a
status notifier in the first place.