Review Request 117450: Add Milou to the default panel layout

[Hans Chen]

I personally don't think that the overlap is too big. The way I see it:

a) Kickoff:
The application launcher, so its primary purpose is to launch applications.
The search bar should be used to filter the "contents" of Kickoff, i.e.,
find items that you would normally find in Kickoff.
(I know that this currently isn't the case - you'll also get things like
bookmarks etc.)

b) KRunner:
KRunner is used for quickly performing common actions.
This could include launching applications, but also doing simple
calculations, converting units, opening bookmarks, etc.
There could also be a runner for Baloo, but the focus should be on quickly
opening files and directories, not "searching".
Therefore I would only do a filename search here and show the filename +
path (+ icon) in the results, similar to the current FS Runner[1].

c) Milou:
Milou is the full-blown search interface.
By having something like a magnifier glass as its icon, it should be the
first place the user goes toif he/she wants to search for a file
(it's not obvious you can do it from Kickoff and KRunner).
Additionally, Milou should show all matches, and offer things like previews
and "show this file in the file manager".

So although the technical details behind the searching are similar, I think
the different ways serve different purposes.

Cheers,
Hans

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[1] https://code.google.com/p/fsrunner/

On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Jens Reuterberg <jens at ohyran.se> wrote:

> Well it could be made more useful if you could click your photo and
> actually
> get to System Settings (if the system settings would have a tailored
> "Personal
> & Appearence" section this would make sense but wth)
>
> On the other hand if the plan is to redo a launcher perhaps that is for
> future
> ...
>
> On Saturday 12 April 2014 21.55.55 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> > On Saturday 12 April 2014 21:29:17 Marco Martin wrote:
> > > On Saturday 12 April 2014, Vishesh Handa wrote:
> > > > a.) Most of the users won't discover the search in KickOff because
> there
> > > > is
> > > > no search bar. I could be wrong, but I don't think people think "if I
> > > > type
> > > > here, it will start searching"
> > >
> > > yep, that's a problem that should be fixed, it should really show the
> > > search box by default
> >
> > Yes, it should! In Gnome (and Gnome applications), "type to search"
> without
> > a search bar being visible previously is a common pattern, but in Plasma
> > and KDE applications it isn't.
> > We have talked about that with sebas, and his reply was along the lines
> of
> > "I'll leave it like that until there is an official decision on whether
> to
> > do this or not". However, it doesn't make sense to go it alone in one
> > place. Either we make this a general pattern, or we keep the prevalent
> > pattern.
> >
> > So yes, the search bar has to be always visible unless KDE decides that
> > hidden search field are the way to go and implements it as a general
> > pattern.
> >
> > Plus, showing the complete hostname and distribution (which is what is
> shown
> > now after the the "Type to start searching" is hidden) is not useful to
> > most users at all.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Thomas
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