I personally don't think that the overlap is too big. The way I see it:<br><br>a) Kickoff:<br>The application launcher, so its primary purpose is to launch applications.<br>The search bar should be used to filter the "contents" of Kickoff, i.e., find items that you would normally find in Kickoff.<br>
(I know that this currently isn't the case - you'll also get things like bookmarks etc.)<br><br>b) KRunner:<br>KRunner is used for quickly performing common actions.<br>This could include launching applications, but also doing simple calculations, converting units, opening bookmarks, etc.<br>
There could also be a runner for Baloo, but the focus should be on quickly opening files and directories, not "searching".<br>Therefore I would only do a filename search here and show the filename + path (+ icon) in the results, similar to the current FS Runner[1].<br>
<br>c) Milou:<br>Milou is the full-blown search interface.<br>By having something like a magnifier glass as its icon, it should be the first place the user goes toif he/she wants to search for a file<br>(it's not obvious you can do it from Kickoff and KRunner).<br>
Additionally, Milou should show all matches, and offer things like previews and "show this file in the file manager". <br><br>So although the technical details behind the searching are similar, I think the different ways serve different purposes.<br>
<br>Cheers,<br>Hans<br><br>--<br>[1] <a href="https://code.google.com/p/fsrunner/">https://code.google.com/p/fsrunner/</a><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Jens Reuterberg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jens@ohyran.se" target="_blank">jens@ohyran.se</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Well it could be made more useful if you could click your photo and actually<br>
get to System Settings (if the system settings would have a tailored "Personal<br>
& Appearence" section this would make sense but wth)<br>
<br>
On the other hand if the plan is to redo a launcher perhaps that is for future<br>
...<br>
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On Saturday 12 April <a href="tel:2014%2021.55.55" value="+12014215555">2014 21.55.55</a> Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:<br>
> On Saturday 12 April 2014 21:29:17 Marco Martin wrote:<br>
> > On Saturday 12 April 2014, Vishesh Handa wrote:<br>
> > > a.) Most of the users won't discover the search in KickOff because there<br>
> > > is<br>
> > > no search bar. I could be wrong, but I don't think people think "if I<br>
> > > type<br>
> > > here, it will start searching"<br>
> ><br>
> > yep, that's a problem that should be fixed, it should really show the<br>
> > search box by default<br>
><br>
> Yes, it should! In Gnome (and Gnome applications), "type to search" without<br>
> a search bar being visible previously is a common pattern, but in Plasma<br>
> and KDE applications it isn't.<br>
> We have talked about that with sebas, and his reply was along the lines of<br>
> "I'll leave it like that until there is an official decision on whether to<br>
> do this or not". However, it doesn't make sense to go it alone in one<br>
> place. Either we make this a general pattern, or we keep the prevalent<br>
> pattern.<br>
><br>
> So yes, the search bar has to be always visible unless KDE decides that<br>
> hidden search field are the way to go and implements it as a general<br>
> pattern.<br>
><br>
> Plus, showing the complete hostname and distribution (which is what is shown<br>
> now after the the "Type to start searching" is hidden) is not useful to<br>
> most users at all.<br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
> Thomas<br>
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