Breadcrumbs in Kickoff

Martin Gräßlin mgraesslin at kde.org
Fri Mar 16 10:47:53 UTC 2012


Hi Mihai,

there has already been a lengthy discussion about breadcrumbs in Kickoff back 
in December [1].

I don't think anyone is interested in having yet another discussion about that 
topic.

Thanks.

Martin Gräßlin

[1] http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/plasma-devel/2011-December/018184.html

On Thursday 15 March 2012 11:20:43 Mihai Dobrescu wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> IMHO, when a user makes a request, he will not perform a market study
> on his demand. He knows his needs and he doesn't ask, nor speaks, for
> other users hand.
> I feel an important amount of stress from the developers part,
> regarding the code involved. From the user part this is unknown. As
> professional developer, the easy to use a feature is, the harder might
> be to implement in the code. When I became software developer, I've
> sworn to satisfy my customers, of course when possible and within the
> feasible limits. So, I would not reject a requested feature unless I
> have good technical reasons to prevent it, based on the argument of
> complexity of code. Of course, maintenance is a good reason to reject
> when not enough resources are present, in order to support that
> feature (is this the case?).
> 
> So, as KDE user, I can't give any statistics, polls, whatever in favor
> or against this button.
> I just _feel_ it is better than breadcrumbs for _me_. It is _natural_ to
> _me_. Form _my_ point of view, breadcrumbs are also useful, as a shortcut,
> when I need to jump over some elements in the path.
> So, the back button and breadcrumbs, although seem redundant, they are
> not, _to me_.
> I would use the 'back' button in 90% of cases.
> It is the very same case with Dolphin (the 'Up' button vs the path
> breadcrumbs), again, _for me_.
> 
> BTW, not all users that miss the button will complain.
> Some devs say that these messages are lose of time for them. I can say
> using the breadcrumbs in the KickOff menu make me losing time too, for
> the sole reason it is unnatural _to me_ to use it there.
> Also, user feedback is not a lose of time.
> 
> Although not many users express their gratitude for the developers
> work, because, _it seems_, the human nature is to complain about
> things not working or things not done.
> Sometimes it should happen. I _need_ to tell you, all the KDE team,
> that I love your work, some may say _imperfect_, but _great_ I say,
> knowing the effort you put in keeping it as close as possible to our
> needs.
> KDE is, _in my opinion_, well designed, flexible to be extended, clean
> and visually appealing. And OPEN.
> Making Plasma and Plasmoids is a good move. It's in the spirit of
> Linux and its customizability. I hope you keep up this good work for
> long.
> 
> Thank you,
> Mike.
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