Next Iteration Sprint, confirmed !

[Dario Freddi]

Il 23 aprile 2012 17:42, Martin Gräßlin <mgraesslin at kde.org> ha scritto:
> On Monday 23 April 2012 13:03:56 Marco Martin wrote:
>> On Monday 23 April 2012, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
>> > Or put simply: Homework first.
>> >
>> > Now if the sprint would be: let's take two days to reflect on the current
>> > state and define where we want to go, and then take 5 days to sit down and
>> > clear the road for getting there, that would be an approach I'd be a lot
>> > more happy with.
>>
>> yep, +1000
>> couldn't have said it better.
>> it's a matter of responsibility
> I really don't see your concerns and I will explain why although I never
> intended to write that down in a public mailing list (out of fear some media
> would discover it).
>
> My expectation from the sprint is that we will figure out a new interaction of
> the shell and windowing system which is not possible at the moment. We have
> pretty much reached what's possible with Plasma tells KWin what to do. But
> turning it around (Plasma becomes a plugin to KWin) will give us complete new
> possibilities which I will start to explore as soon as we are in feature
> freeze.
>
> The result of the sprint will therefore be:
> 1. Existing Shell is not touched
> 2. A new Shell needs to be implemented
>
> This allows us to have some basic new requirements:
> 1. QML2 only
> 2. Qt5/KF5 only
> 3. libplasma2 only
> 4. Compositing only
> (5. Wayland only?)
>
> Basically we can cut off the legacy world and completely concentrate on
> pushing libplasma2 to support the new shell. After that is done, we will be
> able to port the existing shell to libplasma2/QML2.
>
> So my expectation is that it will have the exact opposite effect of what you
> fear. By turning libplasma2 into a requirement for any new work we force our
> workspace developers to work on it. But we need the vision, the clear goal to
> motivate everyone.
>
> First thinking we need to transit the complete existing shell is probably no
> motivating factor to do boring stuff as libplasma2. We need the stick and the
> carrot here. The new shell will be the carrot, the requirement for it has to
> be libplasma2 the stick.
>
> Last remaining note: it's also the best for our users as it will continue on
> our trusted and well known and stable Qt4/kdelibs4 code base :-)

^ all of this.

>
> Cheers
> Martin
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