the next step on the desktop

todd rme toddrme2178 at gmail.com
Mon Jan 31 17:08:59 CET 2011


On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Martin Gräßlin
<kde at martin-graesslin.com> wrote:
> ----- Ursprüngliche Mitteilung -----
>> A Segunda, 31 de Janeiro de 2011 13:00:50 Marco Martin você escreveu:
>> > provocation: remove the maximize button by default? ;) (as the netbook
>> > doesn't have minimize)
>>
>> will talk to mgrslin this afternoon but somthing like a optimal size
>> buton   instead of max... if you clik it again it goes max.... now the
>> apps would need   to provide info to kwin about it... this comes in line
>> with the other crazy   ideas we benn cooking. worth trying IMO
> at UDS I talked with some desktop experience devs about that. What we came up with is abusing the (unused) maximum size hint and making the maximize button tri-state. First click optimized, second click maximized, third click back to normal. As Ubuntu is also interested there's the chance of getting some kind of standard (but honestly I doubt that gnome would be collaborative in any way if it involves both kde and canonical).
>
> From kwin point of view the most difficult part is to get it into the decoration API without breaking BC. Though there are some things which might need a break anyway.
>
> From application point of view the most difficult part is changing all apps. We can do that for our apps, but what about firefox and co?
>
> Cheers
> Martin

Would there be any way to detect whether this is supported by an
application and, if not, just operate in the old mode?

Also, are these hints something that should go in the formal spec, in
order to encourage apps like firefox to support it?  Or would this
come after it has been in use for a while to show it work?

-Todd


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