Ayatana notifications for Plasma

[Roderick B. Greening]

> On Monday 28 September 2009 17:01:34 Roderick B. Greening wrote:
> >   I wonder if it would be worthwhile for Sebastian and Aurelien to get
> >  together  and chat offline. I see some opportunity for clarification in
> > a one-on-one via irc, etc.
> 
> Not sure, it sounds like you see personal issues between me and Aurelien. I
>  don't. (And I hope Aurelien doesn't either.) Not that I like the current
>  situation with patches that won't be accepted because of different design
>  direction, but to me there's a fundamental difference between Aurelien as
>  a KDE hacker and Aurelien as an Ayatana ambassador.

God no. I certainly wasn't implying any issues. I think the co-operation is 
awesome. I was just thinking instead of a mailing list discussion, a real time 
chat may be more productive. I apologize if I inadvertently made it sound 
otherwise :)

> 
> > I believe we had some great discussions at UDS and Sebastian was awesome
> >  at  helping provide guidance to Aurelien at the time. However, it's
> >  possible that over the last 6 months we may have gotten a little off
> > track and we have some opportunity to move this forward in a way
> > desirable to all parties. Or at least, if we cannot make major changes
> > for this release, we can try to minimize any confusion through direction
> > from Sebastion, and look towards doing this differently via USD Lucid and
> > 10.04 release in 6 months time...
> 
> At UDS, we've discussed doing things in a way that KDE can benefit from
>  work being done by Canonical. I would have hoped that this way, we get
>  things like queueing, prioritizing of notifications and improved layout /
>  display into Plasma upstream (and there's surely room for that). That
>  hasn't happened yet, and I hope it still will.

Exactly the sort of discussion I believe we need to have. I'm sure everyone is 
up for that. 

> 
> For some points, such as actions on notifications, there doesn't seem  much
>  wiggle room on either side. We've talked about this over and over, and
>  it's also where people get annoyed. Wrong focus, IMO.
> 

I agree. There will be some ways in which we will differ. I see the end game 
for Kubuntu and KDE is to hopefully see this experiment and maybe take some 
ideas to help improve notifications in KDE in general. Obviously some things do 
not fit with KDE from Ayatana, but some others would definitely help if carried 
over to KDE in some fashion.
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