Ayatana notifications for Plasma

Sebastian Kügler sebas at kde.org
Mon Sep 28 17:46:17 CEST 2009

On Monday 28 September 2009 17:01:34 Roderick B. Greening wrote:
>   I wonder if it would be worthwhile for Sebastian and Aurelien to get
>  together  and chat offline. I see some opportunity for clarification in a
>  one-on-one via irc, etc.

Not sure, it sounds like you see personal issues between me and Aurelien. I don't. 
(And I hope Aurelien doesn't either.) Not that I like the current situation with 
patches that won't be accepted because of different design direction, but to me 
there's a fundamental difference between Aurelien as a KDE hacker and Aurelien as an 
Ayatana ambassador.

> I believe we had some great discussions at UDS and Sebastian was awesome
>  at  helping provide guidance to Aurelien at the time. However, it's
>  possible that over the last 6 months we may have gotten a little off track
>  and we have some opportunity to move this forward in a way desirable to
>  all parties. Or at least, if we cannot make major changes for this
>  release, we can try to minimize any confusion through direction from
>  Sebastion, and look towards doing this differently via USD Lucid and 10.04
>  release in 6 months time...

At UDS, we've discussed doing things in a way that KDE can benefit from work being 
done by Canonical. I would have hoped that this way, we get things like queueing, 
prioritizing of notifications and improved layout / display into Plasma upstream (and 
there's surely room for that). That hasn't happened yet, and I hope it still will.

For some points, such as actions on notifications, there doesn't seem  much wiggle 
room on either side. We've talked about this over and over, and it's also where 
people get annoyed. Wrong focus, IMO.


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