[Panel-devel] kalming kickoff

[Shawn Starr]

As someone whos been using Kickoff, Any highlighting of menu options must be more noticeable then just bold text.  I agree with the Dolphin-esque method of highlighting/(hovering over) a menu item prior to clicking. 

Then again, I'm just jumping in to the discussion. Kickoff in general needs some improvements such as less clicks to select menu items vs KMenu (this drives me insane, and I don't have a patch since it hasn't yet ticked me off enough to stop my weather applet work :-)

Shawn.

----- Original Message ----
From: Robert Knight <robertknight at gmail.com>
To: panel-devel at kde.org
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 1:07:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Panel-devel] kalming kickoff

> i'm very, very, very unimpressed. i am going to ask you once more and
 if that
> doesnt' work then i'll just tell you to stop working on plasma
 related code:

At the moment I still view myself as the maintainer of the Kickoff
code, and therefore the person who can ultimately say yes or no to any
changes.  If you are unhappy with this, and wish to take on this
responsibility yourself then you may do so.  The disadvantage is that
I will desist from contributing improvements to it (either via direct
commits or for review on the mailing list).

Regards,
Robert.

On 12/11/2007, Robert Knight <robertknight at gmail.com> wrote:
> > i was not happy with your first reversion, i gave ample warning of
 exactly
> > what i was going to do and understood we were in agreement for
 "something
> > better eventually" so committing something that was not in line
 with that
> > without discussion is not acceptable.
>
> Firstly, I must re-state is that the item appearance on hover is now
> Dolphin-esque as we originally agreed.  I accept that I should have
> contacted you before reverting your change initially rather than the
> other way around.  However, when I did contact you, I gave clear
> reasons for reverting to the previous code - and as the maintainer it
> is my prerogative to do so.  However, you then proceeded to
> re-implement your change again without mentioning it in the commit
 log
> or CCing me or panel-devel (either would have been acceptable).  (
 rv.
> #733972 "lots of code no longer necessary as applets can usually just
> ignore the whole background thin" ).  This is most certainly not
> acceptable.
>
> > heh.. you're committing my patches? .. interesting, and thanks for
 the
> > conflicts that will ensue.
>
> Not exactly.  In several cases I refactored existing code (outside of
> the patch) in the process and then committed modified versions of the
> code from the patch.  Some parts of your patch (such as the launcher
> border) need changes or further discussion first.
>
> > such as right now it still thinks it "THE_BOTHERSOME_MAN"
> > even though I haven't had that DVD
>
> Possibly a bug in Solid or HAL?
>
> > perhaps this is one for the Solid folks,
> > since "Volume" as a product title is pretty ... unhelpful?
>
> Agreed.  I'm sure there is a more helpful title that could be used.
>
> > i'm not a huge fan of the "just make it configurable" approach when
> avoidable.
>
> That is my opinion as well.  In this case I couldn't think of a good
> automatic solution, hence I proposed an option.
>
>
>
> On 12/11/2007, Aaron J. Seigo <aseigo at kde.org> wrote:
> > On Monday 12 November 2007, Robert Knight wrote:
> > > > - swap the path with the product name in the My Computer view
 (not
> 100%
> > > > sure i like this one yet, though it does give me more info =)
> > >
> > > I think that will depend on an individual user's storage setup as
 to
> > > whether the volume name or the path is more useful.
> > >
> > > On my setup, using the volume name is more useful (eg. "ROB's
 iPod
> > > instead of '/media/xyz0" , "Ubuntu 7.10" instead of
 '/media/cdrom0')
> > > but I can quite imagine it will be the other way round on yours.
> >
> > It works for the CD device ... when it has a lable. Interestingly
 this has
> > some subtle bugs, such as right now it still thinks it
> "THE_BOTHERSOME_MAN"
> > even though I haven't had that DVD in the tray for 2 weeks now (and
 had
> > several others since).
> >
> > > I would recommend using the volume name by default, simply
 because it
> > > is usually a more friendly string to look at,
> >
> > the issue is that on many systems what we'll get is: Volume (ext3)
 for
> each
> > disk, including USB discs. perhaps this is one for the Solid folks,
> > since "Volume" as a product title is pretty ... unhelpful?
> >
> > The name information (e.g. "ROB'S iPod") it still shown in the
 subtext, of
> > course.
> >
> > >  but by all means, add a preference to show the path instead.
> >
> > i'm not a huge fan of the "just make it configurable" approach when
> > avoidable.
> >
> > > Equally, I think it likely that
> > > some users would prefer to see the actual application name
 instead of
> > > the generic name in the applications view.  Although the generic
 name
> > > is a good default choice for new users.
> >
> > yes, we had this option in kde3 as well ...
> >
> > --
> > Aaron J. Seigo
> > humru othro a kohnu se
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> >
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> >
>
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