[Panel-devel] Status of Tenor/Nepomuk + websites +dates

[Aaron J. Seigo]

On Tuesday 15 August 2006 19:56, Zbigniew Braniecki wrote:
> Can you tell me what is the status of search infrastructure for KDE4?

active work is happening in strigi; nepomuk is supposedly going; tenor might 
be depending on scott's moods.

> dead since Feb... it's really hard to say that it'll be a vital part of
> KDE4. And since people already started or even finished migrating some of
> their apps to KDE4, I'm wondering if there is any plan to help them add
> this search infrastructure support for KDE4 or is it abandoned and will
> have to wait till after-4.0 release to get integrated deeper into DE?

at this point, due to the absolutely abysmal real interest in search, much of 
it will almost certainly happen post-4.0. which is sad.

i do plan to expose context based ideas in the desktop regardless. i still 
hold that people don't really want to search; they want context.

> Plasma page lost Roadmap,

guess why? people bothering me about it every other day.

> http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/base/tenor/),

talk to scott about it.

> oxygen getting new 
> icons in the SVN but no updates on the website
> (http://www.oxygen-icons.org), and

so ... they are doing work but the problem is that the website doesn't update? 
priorities askew?

> no word about Coolness since 
> I-don't-know-when (
> http://appeal.kde.org/wiki/Coolness), 

he's AWOL

> I'm wondering if it isn't a high time 
> to update the KDE4 set of websites according to the current state of the
> project.

i'm happier working on kde4 and letting the rest take care of itself.

> Last question is related to the dates. I tried to find any info on the
> wiki, dot.kde.org news, blogs etc., but since the very old news about first
> approaches for KDE4, there was no info about KDE4 roadmap or timeline.

i'm not sure what good that would do you; perhaps you could explain.

i do see the weekly commit digests, the blogs, etc...

> After removal of roadmap from plasma website, it's even harder to say what
> is the current status, roadmap, timeline and ETA of KDE 4. The old news

oh, the irony. people bugging me about it constantly resulted in me taking 
that away. now you have even less information to go by.

users said they wanted to be involved. developers said they wanted to be 
involved. what i've experienced is a lot of people wanting things given to 
them. the kbfx and kjs developers are a terrific exception here, but other 
than that.

> Is there any way to prepare such summary? In the form of
> dot.kde.orgarticle, or sth?

again, why? i tried the route of communicating and all it's resulted in is a 
whole lot of noise in my inbox. from my perspective there's been a -huge- gap 
in the response.

> I know that we have commit digest, but it's more like "Kxyz was updated to
> QT4" than "KDE4's Plasma is currently waiting for X and then it'll be
> implemented. Current timeline for this is Q3 2006." etc.

i've communicated these issues via my blog.

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