[Owncloud] Migrating 3rd party apps into ownclouds github, repository

Thu Feb 28 17:50:58 UTC 2013

The automated listing is apps.owncloud.com. »Maintaining« a »dump« is an
oxymoron, and we don’t have a »core« of people who can or have time to take
over apps from app developers who don’t have time to maintain their own
apps. That’s what the app developer is for.

It’s not an antipattern to let everyone develop where they want. Look at
the Firefox OS appstore, Android, iOS, and so on. Doesn’t matter where you
develop, the listing (in our case apps.owncloud.com) is in one place.

We do not and will not maintain or document 3rd party apps. That’s why they
are called 3rd party.

And again, let’s please postpone this discussion for after the ownCloud 5
release. If you have the energy to write a mail, please invest it in
testing issues instead.

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Amgine <amgine at wikimedians.ca> wrote:

>  (top-posting due to length of quote)
>
> Dispersing 3rd-party apps is an anti-pattern for supporting future forks
> of them, and causes a increase in content maintenance cost.
>
> If you maintain a dump for community apps, listing them is automatable,
> and the cost to document them, etc., is downloaded to the community/their
> developers (and the expectation is many third-party apps will not be
> maintained.)
>
> If you do not, you will be expected to maintain links and minimal
> documentation/teasers to third party apps which will, generally, be
> stale/broken because you don't have the motivation to maintain them.
>
> Such a decision is a hurdle to users and developers who must locate the
> 3rd party apps they wish to use/fork, and makes your site look like a
> cobweb.
>
> Amgine
>
>
> On 28/02/13 06:05 AM, Jan-Christoph Borchardt <hey at jancborchardt.net><hey at jancborchardt.net>wrote:
>
> We had some discussion about a similar question at the developer meeting.
> This is only my personal opinion: Especially apps which are planned to not
> longer be maintained should not just be dumped in the owncloud/apps repo.
> No one will just pick them up or fix errors. If they are important to
> someone then they will go to your Github account, fork them and work on
> that.
>
> We shouldn?t use the owncloud/apps repo as a dump for community apps,
> actually every app should have their own repository. It?s a big mess to
> have multiple apps in one repo, issue tracker etc. where all the commits
> are mixed. Working via pull requests to manage contributions is much better
> than cleaning up possible mess afterwards. Everyone can easily use their
> own Github account or whatever development platform of choice and put the
> apps up at apps.owncloud.com
>
> So as an answer, just put the apps in separate repos on your own Github
> account. Then put the address in the description of the app with a note
> that you won?t maintain them any longer and if anyone wants to pick them up
> they can fork your repo.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Christian Reiner <foss at christian-reiner.info> wrote:
>
>
>  > Hi all,> during the last month I wrote a few simple apps which are published on the> app> store. Despite quite some positive feedback, constructive suggestions and> helpful assistance in tracking down bugs I failed interest anyone into> contributing to the apps themselves. This means I ran a one man show over> the> last month. Unfortunately I have to accept the fact that maintaining those> apps simply takes too much of my time. I have other ongoing projects, some> of> those being more important for me personally. But since aparently there are> many users of the apps out there and they appear to draw attention I think> it> might make sense to keep them alive.>> Community interest asumed I suggest to transfer the apps in their current> state from my own subversion repository into ownClouds github repositories.> That way at least bugfixes could be done where and when required. The last> step I contributed was to migrate the apps to be usable under the upcoming> OC> version 5. Aparently that is done, the apps 'Shorty', 'Shorty Tracking' and> 'Imprint' can be installed and used likewise under OC-4.0, OC4.5 and OC-5> as> far as I can say. In my eyes this means that **now** is a good time for a> migration.>> My questions:> 1.) is there interest to accept the apps (in a community like sense)?> 2.) maybe there is someone who volunteers to take (temporary)> maintainership?> 3.) where should the apps be imported to and how? (Sorry, I don't know> git...)> 4.) maybe someone volunteers to give me a hand in that migration to prevent> serious damages to the ownCloud repositories?> 5.) obviously also alternative suggestions are welcome> 6.) as well as any form of constructive feedback ;-)>> --> Christian Reiner (arkascha)> _______________________________________________> Owncloud mailing list> Owncloud at kde.org> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud>
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