[Owncloud] Again and again: Version control when installing an app

[Thomas Müller]

Am Montag, dem 08.04.2013 um 15:17 schrieb Frank Karlitschek:
> On 08.04.2013, at 15:08, Jan-Christoph Borchardt <hey at jancborchardt.net> wrote:
> 
> > And yeah, I agree that »3rd party« sounds a bit strange and mechanical. We should probably rename it to »Community apps« to make it more clear.
> 
> I agree that 3rd party doens't sounds great.
> But I don't like community because the core apps are also developed by our community :-)
>

What about distinguishing the apps by installation source?
shipped and shopped (<- stupid name I know ;-) )
 
Tom

> Frank
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Bernhard Posselt <nukeawhale at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Can you tell me the exact versions in your info.xml and the version of owncloud that doesnt work?
> > 
> > 
> > On 04/08/2013 08:26 AM, Arman Khalatyan wrote:
> >> +1
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Christian Reiner <foss at christian-reiner.info> wrote:
> >> Hello all,
> >> sorry if I raise that issue again - but frankly I get annoyed with that issue:
> >> 
> >> Again some apps cannot be installed by just 'activating' them inside the
> >> 'apps' section of an ownCloud-5.0.3 installation. The result is the unfamous:
> >> "the app cannot be installed because it is not compatible with this version of
> >> ownCloud".
> >> 
> >> 1.) this is just not true.
> >> 2.) the check that leads to this statement does not make sense.
> >> 3.) this issue has existed for quite some time now, why is it not fixed?
> >> 
> >> I do understand that this issue is not a direct problem for the "core apps"
> >> developed and bundled by the core team. But if ownCloud really is meant to
> >> attract a community of developers coding what is called "3rd party apps" (btw:
> >> why "3rd"?), then such issues must be fixed. The issue has been addressed many
> >> many times before and it is documented in the issue tracker.
> >> I also do understand that it makes sense to have some means to block "old"
> >> apps that are really not compatible with newer versions of ownCloud, since
> >> these might crash the ownCloud core. Although in my eyes this is a
> >> shortcomming of the plugin architecture ownCloud implements for apps, this is
> >> another issue. The problem at hand is simply the version control check done -
> >> which blocks many apps from being installed without any reason.
> >> 
> >> I am getting more and more frustrated having to adapt the appinfo/info.xml
> >> file for apps every two weeks or so to prevent that apps are being blocked
> >> again.
> >> - Why is there no announcement that such thing is required? Are 3rd party app
> >> developers meant to sniff that from thin air?
> >> - Why is a change required anyway? I just stumbled over an app (the imprint
> >> app) that could be installed fine inside OC-5.0.0. Now with OC-5.0.3 it is
> >> blocked again. Why? Probably there is a reason why something was changed
> >> again, but that means a change of the app API between two minor versions -
> >> that is something one does not do. With good reasons. Especially not without
> >> taking care that some backwards compatibility exists.
> >> 
> >> Christian Reiner (arkascha)
> >> [ Probably cooled down again in a few hours ]
> >> 
> >> PS: and no personal offense meant, really not.
> >> I just try to bring that issue up so that it is recognized as an urgent issue.
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