[Owncloud] Again and again: Version control when installing an app

Frank Karlitschek frank at owncloud.org
Mon Apr 8 13:17:37 UTC 2013


On 08.04.2013, at 15:08, Jan-Christoph Borchardt <hey at jancborchardt.net> wrote:

> And yeah, I agree that »3rd party« sounds a bit strange and mechanical. We should probably rename it to »Community apps« to make it more clear.

I agree that 3rd party doens't sounds great.
But I don't like community because the core apps are also developed by our community :-)

Frank


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> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Bernhard Posselt <nukeawhale at gmail.com> wrote:
> Can you tell me the exact versions in your info.xml and the version of owncloud that doesnt work?
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> On 04/08/2013 08:26 AM, Arman Khalatyan wrote:
>> +1
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>> On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Christian Reiner <foss at christian-reiner.info> wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> sorry if I raise that issue again - but frankly I get annoyed with that issue:
>> 
>> Again some apps cannot be installed by just 'activating' them inside the
>> 'apps' section of an ownCloud-5.0.3 installation. The result is the unfamous:
>> "the app cannot be installed because it is not compatible with this version of
>> ownCloud".
>> 
>> 1.) this is just not true.
>> 2.) the check that leads to this statement does not make sense.
>> 3.) this issue has existed for quite some time now, why is it not fixed?
>> 
>> I do understand that this issue is not a direct problem for the "core apps"
>> developed and bundled by the core team. But if ownCloud really is meant to
>> attract a community of developers coding what is called "3rd party apps" (btw:
>> why "3rd"?), then such issues must be fixed. The issue has been addressed many
>> many times before and it is documented in the issue tracker.
>> I also do understand that it makes sense to have some means to block "old"
>> apps that are really not compatible with newer versions of ownCloud, since
>> these might crash the ownCloud core. Although in my eyes this is a
>> shortcomming of the plugin architecture ownCloud implements for apps, this is
>> another issue. The problem at hand is simply the version control check done -
>> which blocks many apps from being installed without any reason.
>> 
>> I am getting more and more frustrated having to adapt the appinfo/info.xml
>> file for apps every two weeks or so to prevent that apps are being blocked
>> again.
>> - Why is there no announcement that such thing is required? Are 3rd party app
>> developers meant to sniff that from thin air?
>> - Why is a change required anyway? I just stumbled over an app (the imprint
>> app) that could be installed fine inside OC-5.0.0. Now with OC-5.0.3 it is
>> blocked again. Why? Probably there is a reason why something was changed
>> again, but that means a change of the app API between two minor versions -
>> that is something one does not do. With good reasons. Especially not without
>> taking care that some backwards compatibility exists.
>> 
>> Christian Reiner (arkascha)
>> [ Probably cooled down again in a few hours ]
>> 
>> PS: and no personal offense meant, really not.
>> I just try to bring that issue up so that it is recognized as an urgent issue.
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