[Owncloud] sync files with 2 sync clients

[Dennis]

Hi,

i couldn`t agree more.
I am a owncloud observer since the early releases and i was trying 
desperately to replace teamdrive with owncloud.
Unfortunately its not useable in a production environment at least in my 
opinion.
Synchronising not to mention team collaborative work isn`t a scenario 
owncloud can handle at the moment.

I really hope the devs can get there, oc is without a doubt very promising.
If i may give a modest advice its that you guys shouldn`t focus on new 
features but instead make owncloud more stable
and focus on the reliable function of its core features.

Thank you for your effort.

Regards

Dennis

Am 08.11.2012 21:26, schrieb Philippe Froidevaux:
> Hi,
>
> I'll try to reply, because I also have a big issue here, too much 
> problems for a single bug repport :P
>
> The documentation says : "First it is important to recall what syncing 
> is. Syncing tries to keep the files on both repositories the same. 
> That means if a file is added to one repository it is going to be 
> copied to the other repository. If a file is changed on one 
> repository, the change is propagated to the other repository. And 
> also, if a file is deleted on one side, it is deleted on the other. As 
> a matter of fact, in ownCloud syncing we do not have a typical 
> client/server system where the server is always master."
>
> Thus in theory, it should works as you describe.
>
> In practice, it won't. I have tried same simple use case and most of 
> them break (Note : I test mostly larges files, more than 200 Mb, but 
> let far enough time to complete a download - or a removing...). For 
> example :
> - I put some files on the client, they sync on the server. But after 
> multiple client reboot, I saw multiple "conflict" files (the files 
> haven't changed at all)
> - I put some files on the client, they sync on the server. If I remove 
> them on the client, they stay on the server.
> - I put some files on the client, they sync on the server. If I remove 
> them on the server, they stay on the client.
> - I put some files on the client, they sync on the server. On a second 
> client, they don't appear anywhere.
>
> This, and some design choices, make the client almost unusable. It's 
> only ok to sync some file from a client to a server. But even for this 
> task :
> - the client sync the file given the file's date, and ignore the file 
> hash. So it seems it will sync if just the date has changed
> - the client sync/upload the file even if the file already exists 
> elsewhere on the server (a simple hash database would avoid this, and 
> use a copy instead of downloading/uploading a whole file)
> - the client seems to scan the whole directory every x seconds, thus 
> take a lot of CPU/disc ressource. It's unusable if you have, for 
> example, 20'000 photos :D . Syncing only the changed files based of 
> access history would avoid this
>
> Etc. etc. :D
>
> It seems to me there is a lot of (re)design work to do here, before 
> having a Dropbox-like storage cloud. The OwnCloud client is NOT ready 
> for any serious usage for now. Even for just sharing files with 
> friends, the multiple "conflicts" files are quiet odd :p
>
>
> <off-topic, judgement> OwnCloud is a very great tool, and very 
> promising. A lot of great job has been done. But it certainly need to 
> focus on stabilising the key features before adding new 
> funtionnalities. </offtopic>
>
>
> Cheers,
> Philippe
>
>
>
>
>
> > Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 13:43:59 +0100
> > From: sat at dispromedia.com
> > To: owncloud at kde.org
> > Subject: [Owncloud] sync files with 2 sync clients
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm testing the last Sync client for windows with the last release of
> > owncloud 4.5.1a, and I've got one question:
> > The case is that I've got 2 laptops, and I want to sync the same 
> folders
> > and files in the two laptops with the same owncloud account, it's 
> possible?
> >
> > Testing this case, if I upload one file to my owncloud folder
> > "synclient" account with Laptop 1 then Laptop 2 don't sync this file
> > (Laptop 2 don't download files uploaded with Laptop 1)
> >
> > Thanks and sorry for my english
> > Congratulations for all your work, Owncloud works great!! ;-)
> > Xavier
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