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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi, <br>
<br>
i couldn`t agree more. <br>
I am a owncloud observer since the early releases and i was trying
desperately to replace teamdrive with owncloud.<br>
Unfortunately its not useable in a production environment at least
in my opinion.<br>
Synchronising not to mention team collaborative work isn`t a
scenario owncloud can handle at the moment.<br>
<br>
I really hope the devs can get there, oc is without a doubt very
promising.<br>
If i may give a modest advice its that you guys shouldn`t focus on
new features but instead make owncloud more stable<br>
and focus on the reliable function of its core features.<br>
<br>
Thank you for your effort.<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
<br>
Dennis <br>
<br>
Am 08.11.2012 21:26, schrieb Philippe Froidevaux:<br>
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<div style="font-size: 12pt;">I'll try to reply, because I also
have a big issue here, too much problems for a single bug
repport :P</div>
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<div style="font-size: 12pt;">The documentation says : "<span
style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(51,
51, 51); font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px;">First it is
important to recall what syncing is. Syncing tries to keep
the files on both repositories the same. That means if a
file is added to one repository it is going to be copied to
the other repository. If a file is changed on one
repository, the change is propagated to the other
repository. And also, if a file is deleted on one side, it
is deleted on the other. As a matter of fact, in ownCloud
syncing we do not have a typical client/server system where
the server is always master.</span>"</div>
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<div style="font-size: 12pt;">Thus in theory, it should works as
you describe.</div>
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<div style="font-size: 12pt;">In practice, it won't. I have
tried same simple use case and most of them break (Note : I
test mostly larges files, more than 200 Mb, but let far enough
time to complete a download - or a removing...). For example :</div>
<div style="font-size: 12pt;">- I put some files on the client,
they sync on the server. But after multiple client reboot, I
saw multiple "conflict" files (the files haven't changed at
all)</div>
<div style="font-size: 12pt;">- I put some files on the client,
they sync on the server. If I remove them on the client, they
stay on the server.</div>
<div>- I put some files on the client, they sync on the
server. If I remove them on the server, they stay on the
client.</div>
<div>- I put some files on the client, they sync on the
server. On a second client, they don't appear anywhere.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>This, and some design choices, make the client almost
unusable. It's only ok to sync some file from a client to a
server. But even for this task :</div>
<div>- the client sync the file given the file's date, and
ignore the file hash. So it seems it will sync if just the
date has changed</div>
<div>- the client sync/upload the file even if the file already
exists elsewhere on the server (a simple hash database would
avoid this, and use a copy instead of downloading/uploading a
whole file)</div>
<div>- the client seems to scan the whole directory every x
seconds, thus take a lot of CPU/disc ressource. It's unusable
if you have, for example, 20'000 photos :D . Syncing only the
changed files based of access history would avoid this</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Etc. etc. :D</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>It seems to me there is a lot of (re)design work to do
here, before having a Dropbox-like storage cloud. The OwnCloud
client is NOT ready for any serious usage for now. Even for
just sharing files with friends, the multiple "conflicts"
files are quiet odd :p</div>
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<div><off-topic, judgement> OwnCloud is a very great tool,
and very promising. A lot of great job has been done. But it
certainly need to focus on stabilising the key features before
adding new funtionnalities. </offtopic></div>
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<div>Cheers,</div>
<div>Philippe</div>
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<div>> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 13:43:59 +0100<br>
> From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:sat@dispromedia.com">sat@dispromedia.com</a><br>
> To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:owncloud@kde.org">owncloud@kde.org</a><br>
> Subject: [Owncloud] sync files with 2 sync clients<br>
> <br>
> Hi all,<br>
> <br>
> I'm testing the last Sync client for windows with the
last release of <br>
> owncloud 4.5.1a, and I've got one question:<br>
> The case is that I've got 2 laptops, and I want to sync
the same folders <br>
> and files in the two laptops with the same owncloud
account, it's possible?<br>
> <br>
> Testing this case, if I upload one file to my owncloud
folder <br>
> "synclient" account with Laptop 1 then Laptop 2 don't
sync this file <br>
> (Laptop 2 don't download files uploaded with Laptop 1)<br>
> <br>
> Thanks and sorry for my english<br>
> Congratulations for all your work, Owncloud works great!!
;-)<br>
> Xavier<br>
> -- <br>
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