[Owncloud] Inter-ownCloud Sharing

Deepak Mittal dpac.mittal2 at gmail.com
Wed May 30 04:30:40 UTC 2012 

On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Frank Karlitschek <frank at owncloud.org>wrote:

> I agree with Jan,
>
> user to user sharing, without the admin, is significantly cooler and more
> useful for users then requiring that the admin "connects" the servers.
> It would be very very cool if we could implement it like this.
>
>
That's the way it'll be heading. We're discussing about API implementations
which would enable a consistent REST api and API client as part of the
sharing app.



> webfinger is a great way to discover other users. The problem is that it
> is not always available. It works only if you install ownCloud into the
> webserver root and some users might also consider it a security hole and
> switch it off.
> So it would be great if the sharing system would also work without
> webfinger.
> Just without autocompletion obviously.
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> I´m not sure if "frank at franksowncloud.org" is the best syntax for a user
> "frank" on owncloud "franksowncloud.org". Users will most likely confuse
> this with an email address.
> Perhaps we should try to find a different syntax for that.
>
> frank!franksowncloud.org/owncloudfolder  or
> (frank)franksowncloud.org/owncloudfolder or
> frank=franksowncloud.org/owncloudfolder  or
> frank/franksowncloud.org/owncloudfolder  or
> frank%franksowncloud.org/owncloudfolder
>
>
We can discuss about this. Still frank at franksowncloud.org makes most sense.



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> On 27.05.2012, at 17:24, Nils Jansen <nilsjansen at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > i agree. If nils at ownid.net wants to share something with
> > frank at franksowncloud.org he needs to know his webfinger. The already
> > existing user/group form field for shareing files, folders, calendars &
> > events should be able to handle these external webfingers.
> >
> > I think this would be most intuitive and least complicated on both devel
> > and usability side.
> >
> > The "accept sharing offer" feature and notification should be
> > implemented globally, not only for inter owncloud sharing, no?
> >
> > Looking forward to this feature very much,
> >
> > Nils
> >
> > Am 27.05.2012 11:26, schrieb Christophe M:
> >> 2012/5/26 Michael Gapczynski <mtgap at owncloud.com
> >> <mailto:mtgap at owncloud.com>>
> >>
> >>    On Saturday, May 26, 2012 07:50:45 PM Bartek Przybylski wrote:
> >>>> I agree this is it how it should be done. Bartek would you like to
> >>>> comment?
> >>>
> >>> Decision of binding owncloud instances only by admins was made for
> >>> save resources and restrict access to information about instance.
> >>> Binding between instances should allow instances to exchange
> >>> information like userlist, groups etc.
> >>> Obviously accessing sharing only by single user should also by
> >>> available, but i dont remember did i point it out while proposal
> >>> review.
> >>>
> >>
> >>    Relying on admins to bind instances is too much restriction on who
> >>    you can
> >>    share with. I don't understand how this method saves any resources.
> >>
> >>    Exchanging the list of users and groups might be nice, but I don't
> >>    see why
> >>    this is necessary. The main use case I see for sharing between
> >>    instances is
> >>    for two individuals with their own independent instances. Sharing
> >>    with a group
> >>    or looking through the user list on a different instance sounds
> really
> >>    strange.
> >>
> >>    The best possible solution is to integrate sharing with the contacts
> >>    app and
> >>    allow the linking of a contact to a remote ownCloud instance user.
> >>    In the same
> >>    fashion as Jan-Christoph pointed out with frank at franksowncloud.org
> >>    <mailto:frank at franksowncloud.org>.
> >>
> >>>> I noticed in your proposal that this is focusing on files.
> >>    Please note
> >>>> that
> >>>> I'm working on refactoring sharing to work with other app content.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm starting to think that this project shouldn't be an app. I
> >>    strongly
> >>>> believe this should be a REST API in the public namespace for
> >>    apps to
> >>>> register specific actions with. We eventually need something so
> >>    files can
> >>>> be shared, reverted to past versions, etc. from desktop and mobile
> >>>> clients. Apps other than just sharing should be able to talk between
> >>>> instances and have actions triggered by remote clients. Doing this
> >>>> separate from interc-ownCloud sharing will just be duplicating work.
> >>>
> >>> Project beeing api instead of app, im not sure how that was mixed up.
> >>> file sharing app was suppose to be example of api usage
> >>
> >>    I don't understand what you mean.
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >> Hi !
> >>
> >> Well I think that there is two completely different use case :
> >>
> >> - Connect completely two OC instance to allow sharing between each users
> >> of the two instance as if it was only one instance (the current proposal
> >> with user list, ...). That one should be admin driven. May be used to
> >> connect for example two enterprise  ..
> >>
> >> - Simple user sharing between two user of different instance. Knowing
> >> the user name and the domain of the remote user ('B'), 'A' can initiate
> >> a sharing request with 'B' to share files with him without needing admin
> >> permissions ('B' do you want to be my friend). You have to know the
> >> other user. After the sharing request is accepted, 'A' and 'B' can share
> >> files. 'B' will never appear in the sharing list of 'C' on the same
> >> server as 'A' as the share link is between 'A' and 'B'. This scenario is
> >> more for "social" sharing.
> >>
> >>
> >> Christophe
> >>
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