[Owncloud] Update to sabredav 1.6

[Klaas Freitag]

On 06.03.2012 20:31, Georg Ehrke wrote:
Hi,

> I would guess Frank is a bit overworked due to the cebit :(
Hmmm ;-)

> This is a really difficult question about fixing bugs or keeping up
> compatibility.
Yes, and its a question of what and how many versions we can and want to 
maintain.

One option would be to ask upstream at SabreDAV why they went to 5.3 and 
in which areas of SabreDAV 5.3 features are used. Maybe it is possible 
to do a SabreDAV 1.6 backport to 5.2 for our usecases. But honestly I 
don't think thats a good idea, as I think that the SabreDAV guys also 
thought about that and have good reasons to go for 5.3. And we don't 
want to maintain a SabreDAV branch ourselfes, never ever.

So my opinion is: We have to carefully limit the number of ownClouds we 
have to maintain. As a result we should go the hard way and also require 
5.3 for ownCloud 4. 5.2 users have to stay with ownCloud 3.
If  we  feel that is too hard for the users, we would have to ship oC4 
with the old SabreDAV version and still go with 5.2. In that case we 
should announce *now* that oC5 will require 5.3. For that it would be 
interesting to know which of our known bugs the 1.6 update really fixes.

I think the most critical thing here is communication and clear 
statements to allow users to plan:
- When will we release which oC version?
- Which version of PHP will we require when?
- How long do we support which oC version?
- What does this support mean from the upstream community.

regards,
Klaas

>
>
> Am 04.03.2012 20:15, schrieb Jakob Sack:
>> Hi,
>>
>> when I integrated SabreDAV in ownCloud I accidentally dropped PHP <5.2
>> support. Of course PHP 5.3 is two and a half years old but that does
>> not necessarily mean that every webspace provides PHP 5.3.
>> Frank, do you you think? Of course I'd favour depending on PHP 5.3 but
>> on the other hand I remember well that ownCloud should run everywhere.
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jakob
>>
>> Am 04.03.2012 19:52, schrieb Stephan Schulz:
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> in my opinion, fixing (those) bugs should be priority no one. I guess
>>> most people can control their PHP installation or at least ask for an
>>> update. If not they still have the option to stay with owncloud 3 for
>>> some more time.
>>>
>>> Stephan
>>>
>>> -------------------------
>>>
>>>> On 3 March 2012 21:41, Christophe <christophe at wk3.org [3]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> I would strongly prefer SabreDAV 1.6 over PHP 5.2 support, though
>>>>> you can't argue with security support. RHEL 5 still supports PHP
>>>>> 5.1.6(!) and Ubuntu 8.04 comes with PHP 5.2.4. (:
>>>>>
>>>>> Christophe
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> Don't forget that most ISPs have lots of clients with legacy code,
>>>> and cannot update to php 5.3 yet.
>>>>
>>>> It will take some time before we can be php 5.2 free.
>>>>
>>>> Owncloud should adopt moodle view, and have php 5.2 and php 5.3
>>>> versions.
>>>>
>>>> My 0.2 cents
>>>>
>>>> Mauro Vale
>>>>