[Owncloud] Fwd: Flattr for the release?

[Michael Grosser]

I really would have liked to have a reasonable discussion, but now it's
getting ridiculous.
Writing something like this doesn't even provide any basis of discussion:
"I hope Flattr doesn't just send money to people reaching out to them,
claiming that they are the rightful owner of the money."
I don't want to clarify this.

The only thing I want to clarify is that Flattr is a trustworthy company,
much more trustworthy than Paypal.

I think the best for ownCloud is to end this discussion now.
I wanted to discuss a valid point and still think it is one, but I don't
want to get down to this ridiculous basis.

Cheers
Michael


On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 9:56 PM, Cornelius Schumacher <schumacher at kde.org>wrote:

> On Saturday 08 October 2011 Michael Grosser wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Cornelius Schumacher
> <schumacher at kde.org>wrote:
> >
> > > If a community member has the account it's a private account with all
> the
> > > risks and problems. It might sound like theory, but what happens when
> the
> > > community member doesn't care anymore, and doesn't reply to any
> requests?
> > > The
> > > money is missing and there is no way to get it. Stuff like this does
> > > happen,
> > > so I would avoid it.
> >
> > It's easily avoidable. Just reach out to flattr. Or use a
> > flattr at owncloud.org mail and it can be redirected if someone isn't
> > answering.
>
> I hope Flattr doesn't just send money to people reaching out to them,
> claiming
> that they are the rightful owner of the money.
>

> > I thought the good thing about being open is the ability to use something
> > new and I would really appreciate ownCloud being open and modern, so give
> > the user at least the ability to not use paypal.
>
> Being open and using something new are different things. Especially when it
> comes to money it's not bad to be careful and not just experiment. But this
> doesn't mean at all that you can't be open and innovative.
>

> ownCloud is modern, new, and exciting because it's a great, modern idea
> with a
> vital community behind it, not because it uses donation buttons which are
> trendy.
>

> > I'm not saying we can't integrate a paypal button for kde on the
> > contribution page, but I like the idea of flattr and I would love this
> > account to be dedicated, even if it just is a dedicated account for
> > dedicated labeling.
>
> Flattr is on a different level than Paypal. Paypal is just a payment
> system,
> and you will still need either Paypal or something similar to be able to
> transfer money via Flattr.
>

> Flattr adds community micro-payment to this, and it's mostly targeted
> towards
> blogs. I'm not sure, it adds a lot of value for software projects, which is
> worth the 10% fee they take from the income.
>

> We had the discussion within KDE, if we want to use it, and decided against
> it, as there are more direct ways to donate to us, which don't involve any
> fees on top of the fees for the actual money transfer.
>

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> Cornelius Schumacher <schumacher at kde.org>
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