[Owncloud] Fwd: Flattr for the release?

[Cornelius Schumacher]

On Saturday 08 October 2011 Michael Grosser wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Cornelius Schumacher 
<schumacher at kde.org>wrote:
>
> > If a community member has the account it's a private account with all the
> > risks and problems. It might sound like theory, but what happens when the
> > community member doesn't care anymore, and doesn't reply to any requests?
> > The
> > money is missing and there is no way to get it. Stuff like this does
> > happen,
> > so I would avoid it.
> 
> It's easily avoidable. Just reach out to flattr. Or use a
> flattr at owncloud.org mail and it can be redirected if someone isn't
> answering.

I hope Flattr doesn't just send money to people reaching out to them, claiming 
that they are the rightful owner of the money.

> I thought the good thing about being open is the ability to use something
> new and I would really appreciate ownCloud being open and modern, so give
> the user at least the ability to not use paypal.

Being open and using something new are different things. Especially when it 
comes to money it's not bad to be careful and not just experiment. But this 
doesn't mean at all that you can't be open and innovative.

ownCloud is modern, new, and exciting because it's a great, modern idea with a 
vital community behind it, not because it uses donation buttons which are 
trendy.

> I'm not saying we can't integrate a paypal button for kde on the
> contribution page, but I like the idea of flattr and I would love this
> account to be dedicated, even if it just is a dedicated account for
> dedicated labeling.

Flattr is on a different level than Paypal. Paypal is just a payment system, 
and you will still need either Paypal or something similar to be able to 
transfer money via Flattr.

Flattr adds community micro-payment to this, and it's mostly targeted towards 
blogs. I'm not sure, it adds a lot of value for software projects, which is 
worth the 10% fee they take from the income.

We had the discussion within KDE, if we want to use it, and decided against 
it, as there are more direct ways to donate to us, which don't involve any 
fees on top of the fees for the actual money transfer.

-- 
Cornelius Schumacher <schumacher at kde.org>