[Owncloud] Fwd: Flattr for the release?

[Michael Grosser]

Relay of Jan-Christoph:

just to log here because I don't get the mails:
"The money is missing and there is no way to get it." – If we don't do
anything the money is 'missing' as well. We shouldn't operate on vague
possibilities.

As for the PayPal stuff: Flattr might be 'new' but was explicitly made so
people can easily donate. And it works. Debian people and lots of podcasters
are just some among the users. I personally know people from Flattr and they
are trustworthy. PayPal regularly fucks people over and keeps money.


On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Michael Grosser <owncloud at seetheprogress.net
> wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Cornelius Schumacher <schumacher at kde.org>wrote:
>
>> On Saturday 08 October 2011 Michael Grosser wrote:
>> >
>> > So why not get to the point and have dedicated donations for owncloud
>> and
>> > let them be handled from kde? It even would be possible to let a
>> community
>> > member handle the flattr account and make a transaction to kde every few
>> > months.
>>
>> If a community member has the account it's a private account with all the
>> risks and problems. It might sound like theory, but what happens when the
>> community member doesn't care anymore, and doesn't reply to any requests?
>> The
>> money is missing and there is no way to get it. Stuff like this does
>> happen,
>> so I would avoid it.
>>
>
> It's easily avoidable. Just reach out to flattr. Or use a
> flattr at owncloud.org mail and it can be redirected if someone isn't
> answering.
>
>
>>
>> > Then it would be legally alright (using KDE), ownCloud would still be
>> > supported from the common pool, but it would be a dedicated labeled
>> account
>> > for future changes and easy user recognizability.
>>
>> As I said, a dedicated account and dedicated donations can have some
>> issues.
>> So instead of going with something new like a flattr account, I would
>> recommend to just use the existing infrastructure and put something like
>> "if
>> you want to financially support ownCloud donate to KDE e.V." on the
>> ownCloud
>> web page and in the release announcement. We have Paypal donations buttons
>> we
>> can use for that, if you prefer a real button.
>>
> I thought the good thing about being open is the ability to use something
> new and I would really appreciate ownCloud being open and modern, so give
> the user at least the ability to not use paypal.
> I'm not saying we can't integrate a paypal button for kde on the
> contribution page, but I like the idea of flattr and I would love this
> account to be dedicated, even if it just is a dedicated account for
> dedicated labeling.
>
>
>>
>> --
>> Cornelius Schumacher <schumacher at kde.org>
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