[Nepomuk] Re: nepomuk & gnome & firefox

Sebastian Trüg trueg at kde.org
Wed Nov 10 08:11:28 CET 2010


The solution is simply what I said: we support the tracker API and
that's it. The other way around is not possible anyway.

Cheers,
Sebastian

On 11/09/2010 08:46 PM, Richard Dale wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Sebastian Trüg <trueg at kde.org> wrote:
>> while you can this is pointless when it comes to compatibility between
>> Gnome and KDE. Nepomuk in KDE uses named graphs to store data and
>> metadata about the data. This is not supported by Tracker. Thus, your
>> QSparql code would have to support two cases: Tracker and Nepomuk.
>> Putting that into the service directly makes way more sense.
> I'm not clear what you mean here. I need to study how KDE Nepomuk uses
> named graphs in order to think about how we can make Tracker and KDE
> Nepomuk services inter-operate. How would we 'put that into a service
> directly' without doing some sort of conversion between Nepomuk's
> named graphs and Tracker's more flat triple based data? The Tracker
> team do have plans to add better named graph support in the future,
> and so if both projects can discuss how KDE Nepomuk is using named
> graphs it would be pretty useful imho.
> 
> -- Richard
> 
>>
>> On 11/08/2010 11:54 AM, Richard Dale wrote:
>>> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 8:58 AM, Sebastian Trüg <trueg at kde.org> wrote:
>>>> AFAIK Gnome uses Tracker only. It would, however, be very simple to
>>>> write a wrapper service that provides the Tracker API from the Nepomuk
>>>> system. That way Gnome and KDE apps could share their data.
>>>> Nothing has been done here yet. As always the developer shortage in
>>>> Nepomuk is the problem.
>>> You can use QSparql (git at gitorious.org:maemo-af/qsparql.git) to access
>>> both Virtuoso, Tracker based stores and SPARQL endpoints with the same
>>> Qt-style asynchronous api. It has drivers for both the DBus based
>>> Tracker apis and the newer and faster 'Tracker direct' one.
>>>
>>> -- Richard
>>>
>>>> As far as Firefox is concerned: Mandriva is putting effort into that one
>>>> again. Nothing has been released yet though.
>>>>
>>>> All in all: we need developers at all corners!
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Sebastian
>>>>
>>>> On 11/08/2010 02:35 AM, Bruce Adams wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>     I've been redirected here from the nepomuk-eclipse mailing list where I was
>>>>> originally
>>>>> looking for information on the firefox extension that uses nepomuk. It seems to
>>>>> have fallen out of maintenance.
>>>>> Does anyone know anything about it?
>>>>>
>>>>> My other question concerns integration of nepomuk with gnome. Gnome has xesame
>>>>> which seems a few steps
>>>>> behind nepomuk. Is gnome likely to adopt nepomuk or go its own way? There is an
>>>>> old launch pad item about
>>>>> adding nepomuk integration here, but its no more than a suggestion.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/item/12507/
>>>>>
>>>>> Where I'm coming from is that I would like to create an application with support
>>>>> for tagging files but I would like it to
>>>>> work with both gnome and kde natively. Okay, you can run a nepomuk server and
>>>>> still use gnome but it is not quite
>>>>> the same. Do I need to write a platform independent wrapper library?
>>>>> I'm also wondering about tagging web pages via firefox.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure this is old ground. Perhaps someone could direct me towards some more
>>>>> recent information?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Bruce.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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