[Kroupware] Questions about Kmail IMAP-client

[Andreas Korn]

Bo Thorsen wrote:
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> On Monday 17 February 2003 18:46, Andreas Korn wrote:
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>>Bernhard Reiter wrote:
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>>>On Monday 17 February 2003 14:34, Andreas Korn wrote:
>>>
>>>>Bo Thorsen wrote:
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>>>>>Unfortunately there are places in the system that demands a
>>>>>disconnected IMAP account for everything to work correctly, so I'm
>>>>>afraid that for now the kroupware features means that you have to
>>>>>use the disconnected IMAP.
>>>>
>>>>I'm curious about the places demanding disconnected IMAP and why.
>>>>Could you be a bit more specific?
>>>
>>>Apard from the technical part that Bo answered.
>>>Disconnected IMAP is needed if you want offline capabilities
>>
>>Wouldn't it be better, to use some other mechanism to make an offline
>>mode optional? When I think about a company network, most clients will
>>always be online and some few Laptops are "one the road", so most won't
>>need have everything offline. I think about something like the Mozilla
>>feature for IMAP folders to make them available offline.
> 
> 
> Sure. As I said, it's only because we didn't make this work so far that 
> it's not possible to have the calendar stuff in anything other than dIMAP 
> folders.

I never thought of Local Folders or POP folders (usually the same as 
local folders), just 'not disconnected' IMAP folders.

> 
> I do feel that there is one *very* big advantage with dIMAP - backup. It's 
> next to impossible to make really good backup of everyones local stuff, 
> unless you simply back up all the users files.

Or you just use regular IMAP. If someone moves his or her mails away 
from IMAP folders, then it is not in the backup. There is no difference 
to dIMAP.

> 
> One of the key advantages of the Kolab server is that backup is extremely 
> simple. And with disconnected IMAP you know that everyones calendar is 
> backed up.

That's how it should be.

> 
> Another thing: I don't know anyone who keeps every mail in their inbox. 
> You always move mails somewhere else. There is absolutely nothing 
> stopping you from moving the mails to something else, as long as the four 
> groupware folders are on the imap server.

Moving the mails out of your INBOX and moving them from the IMAP server 
to local folders are not the same.

> 
> 
>>>and use several clients. The first client might make changes
>>>on its copy and the second one, too. Now they need to get synced.
>>>As simple copy and write back method wouldn't work here.
>>
>>How do you sync this?
>>Is it really neccessary to work with multiple clients simultamously?
>>Where would I need support for this?
> 
> 
> It's definately needed if you have more than one person working on the 
How about making a local copy of the involved mails for write access and 
leave the rest on the server otherwise?
> same folders - shared folders. It's also needed for people with more than 
> one computer.

How are the shared folders synced differently with dIMAP than with IMAP?

> 
> Bo.
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Basically I still don't understand, why the dIMAP is needed instead of 
IMAP. I don't see POP or local folder stuff as a real option for this.

One more question:
As for as I can see (at least up to now), the shared folders are just 
shared IMAP mail folders like a bulletin board. Are the shared folders 
involved in other parts, too?


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