[Konsole-devel] konsole pgup and pgdown

[Robert Knight]

Hello,

> sorry it took me so long but I find it extremely hard to understand
> and use the mailing list

What aspect of using the mailing list did you find difficult?
As an alternative to using a mailing list you can:

1)  Email me or one of the other developers directly (our addresses
are listed in Help -> About Konsole in Konsole itself) -
although to use the mailing list itself you can just email konsole-devel at kde.org
2)  Use the user forum at forum.kde.org

> If so then mc has allays used ctrl+pgup and pgdown but now after all
> the years of using konsole, konsole is interfering with an app that
> its supposed to run just like from cli(terminal,shell)

These things are not so simple.  An alternative argument is that all
applications which have tabs should behave consistently and
in other tabbed applications like Firefox, Konqueror etc,
Ctrl+PageUp/PageDown switches tabs and the behavior should be the same
in Konsole.  What we have actually done is to pick a compromise in
most cases which is to take the standard shortcut for an action and
add Shift to avoid conflicting with terminal applications.  For
example, Ctrl+C is the standard key sequence to kill a command in a
terminal but it is also the standard key sequence to copy text.  So in
Konsole we use Ctrl+Shift+C instead.

> 5) Frustrating to have to fix something that worked before with ease.

Yes, I appreciate that changes can be frustrating.  Yes, I appreciate
that it can be annoying for some users when behavior changes.
However, I have to deal with:

a)  The needs of new users who are confused by the existing behavior
b)  The needs of old users who do not like the existing behavior and
do want it changed
c)  The needs of new users who do like the existing behavior and do
not want it changed

Regards,
Robert.

2009/7/12 one forall <oneforall at gmail.com>:
> Hi
>  sorry it took me so long but I find it extremely hard to understand
> and use the mailing list. I'm sure there are lots of others too that
> don't say anything because of the email system too.
> But is not the sole purpose of konsole to run applications 1 for each
> tab. To run them like cli?
> If so then mc has allays used ctrl+pgup and pgdown but now after all
> the years of using konsole, konsole is interfering with an app that
> its supposed to run just like from cli(terminal,shell) . Yes you can
> go change the shortcut but since its an Alternative then that
> Alternative should be another not something interfering with it
> working out of the box like cli. Dunno why now in kde4 it wants to do
> that . I sure hope its fixed thanks.
> 1) apps should run with no interference like they would from cli.
> 2) An Alternative shouldn't be a short cut an app uses .
> 3) 1 app or 100 doesn't matter the purpose is to run AN app just like
> it does from cli
> 4) Even if you can take time to find out how to change it . It was
> Always working in previous kde's , which defeats the porpose of making
> it like cli. and from working to not . just that alone is enought to
> know its the wrong way to go
> 5) Frustrating to have to fix something that worked before with ease.
> 6) Just hoping to see it do what it used too and should do.
>
> Any way hope this gets fixed.
> Bring it back to the porpose of using it to work proper with the
> app/apps since it used to
> later
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