[Konsole-devel] konsole pgup and pgdown

one forall oneforall at gmail.com
Mon Jul 13 09:54:24 UTC 2009


so the old long time devoted people get the shaft .
Thats really nice .  New people own linux now it what your saying .
thanks a lot . They can stay with windows then


On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Robert Knight<robertknight at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
>> sorry it took me so long but I find it extremely hard to understand
>> and use the mailing list
>
> What aspect of using the mailing list did you find difficult?
> As an alternative to using a mailing list you can:
>
> 1)  Email me or one of the other developers directly (our addresses
> are listed in Help -> About Konsole in Konsole itself) -
> although to use the mailing list itself you can just email konsole-devel at kde.org
> 2)  Use the user forum at forum.kde.org
>
>> If so then mc has allays used ctrl+pgup and pgdown but now after all
>> the years of using konsole, konsole is interfering with an app that
>> its supposed to run just like from cli(terminal,shell)
>
> These things are not so simple.  An alternative argument is that all
> applications which have tabs should behave consistently and
> in other tabbed applications like Firefox, Konqueror etc,
> Ctrl+PageUp/PageDown switches tabs and the behavior should be the same
> in Konsole.  What we have actually done is to pick a compromise in
> most cases which is to take the standard shortcut for an action and
> add Shift to avoid conflicting with terminal applications.  For
> example, Ctrl+C is the standard key sequence to kill a command in a
> terminal but it is also the standard key sequence to copy text.  So in
> Konsole we use Ctrl+Shift+C instead.
>
>> 5) Frustrating to have to fix something that worked before with ease.
>
> Yes, I appreciate that changes can be frustrating.  Yes, I appreciate
> that it can be annoying for some users when behavior changes.
> However, I have to deal with:
>
> a)  The needs of new users who are confused by the existing behavior
> b)  The needs of old users who do not like the existing behavior and
> do want it changed
> c)  The needs of new users who do like the existing behavior and do
> not want it changed
>
> Regards,
> Robert.
>
> 2009/7/12 one forall <oneforall at gmail.com>:
>> Hi
>>  sorry it took me so long but I find it extremely hard to understand
>> and use the mailing list. I'm sure there are lots of others too that
>> don't say anything because of the email system too.
>> But is not the sole purpose of konsole to run applications 1 for each
>> tab. To run them like cli?
>> If so then mc has allays used ctrl+pgup and pgdown but now after all
>> the years of using konsole, konsole is interfering with an app that
>> its supposed to run just like from cli(terminal,shell) . Yes you can
>> go change the shortcut but since its an Alternative then that
>> Alternative should be another not something interfering with it
>> working out of the box like cli. Dunno why now in kde4 it wants to do
>> that . I sure hope its fixed thanks.
>> 1) apps should run with no interference like they would from cli.
>> 2) An Alternative shouldn't be a short cut an app uses .
>> 3) 1 app or 100 doesn't matter the purpose is to run AN app just like
>> it does from cli
>> 4) Even if you can take time to find out how to change it . It was
>> Always working in previous kde's , which defeats the porpose of making
>> it like cli. and from working to not . just that alone is enought to
>> know its the wrong way to go
>> 5) Frustrating to have to fix something that worked before with ease.
>> 6) Just hoping to see it do what it used too and should do.
>>
>> Any way hope this gets fixed.
>> Bring it back to the porpose of using it to work proper with the
>> app/apps since it used to
>> later
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