[Kmymoney] Re: Cannot edit payee list

[aga]

On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 23:37:30 +0100
Ian Millington <ian at ianmillington.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi Allan
> 
> 
> On 31/03/11 11:44, aga wrote:
> > On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 12:23:44 +0100
> > Ian Millington<ian at ianmillington.co.uk>  wrote:
> >
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> I've tried with both 4.5.2 and 4.5.3 with the same result. It works
> >> with 1.0.5 though.
> >>
> >> I tried setting KMM to show only transactions from 1/1/2011. No
> >> difference.
> >>
> > Well, either that indicates that this procedure still reads all
> > payees/transactions, or that the fault is later that Jan.  You could
> > try 1 Mar 2011?
> >
> Yes I have, and sadly it is still the same.
> >> I'm not sure how I would run a transaction report by payee. Do you
> >> have any guidance on that please?
> >>
> > Select Report/Transactions/Transactions by Payee.  You then get a
> > wizard allowing you to specify requirements.  Account will probably
> > have everything selected, as will category and payee.  So just set
> > the start date to your earliest date.  You'll get a long list per
> > payee of all transactions.  See what happens, and if anything looks
> > untoward. Changing start-end dates might help, too.
> I ran a transaction report from 1/1/1999 to date and it looks like it 
> picked everything up, and didn't return any error messages at all. So 
> that was fine.
> >> Also, I don't know how valid this is but running a consistency
> >> check produces the error "consistency check failed - invalid
> >> transaction to be modified".
> >>
> > Now, that is significant.  I didn't ask about that as the check is
> > now done on every save, and, as I understand it, any error should
> > get fixed.  I think I was assuming you couldn't save.  When you got
> > that message, did you continue to save?  Otherwise, you'll continue
> > to experience the problem, assuming KMM can fix it.
> On the consistency check, I merely used tools/consistency check
> without having any real clue as to what it would do.  I have no
> trouble at all saving, or doing a backup. I can save the file in
> 4.5.2/3 and open it in 1.0.5 and it works flawlessly, I can delete
> payees and reassign at will. However, when I revert to 4.5.x the
> issue is still there. It's not the end of the world, and I can add
> new payees whilst working within the ledgers, it's just that nothing
> in the payee pane works. I wondered it might be a bug in the GUI or
> simply that there were too many payees (file info says 1307!) but the
> fact that you can open the anonymous file suggests otherwise, so it
> looks like it is specific to my installation.
> 

Hi Ian

We mustn't lose sight of what Cristian said, that there is a bug that
may be relevant, although I'm not seeing it, at least with your
anonymised file.

> A couple of points: I did try within 4.5.3 setting up a new user and 
> when I did I can add and delete payees. 

Sorry, I'm not clear what you mean here.  Do you mean you've set up a
new user on your system and can can add and delete payees to/from your
'bad' file, or in a new file?  Or, do you mean a new KMM file?

> Could the issue be the way I
> set up the user account? I simply exported the kmy file from skrooge,
> opened it in kmy, set the preferences and saved. Should I have done
> it differently?
> 

I would suspect that the official answer here might be that inputting a
non-KMM-created .kmy file is not supported, and that one creates a new
file in KMM and then build it up, and/or import via qif or ofx or
gnucash.  Did you try importing your qif into gnucash?

Do you still have your original Skrooge file (not the one you saved in
KMM)?  Can you access its payees?

Could you retry your Quicken qif file?  I'd be interested to know the
result.

"22 Mar KMM Seg Faults after editing payee" Ubuntu
"12 Mar 4.5.3 hangs for ~60 seconds upon right clicking payee from
payees tab" Ubuntu
"3 Mar 4.5.3 get an error when delete some payees" svn

The 12 Mar post is the one Cristian is linking to  yours.

I created a copy of your file and edited almost all payees to be a
single new payee.  When I click that payee, nothing shows for
~16seconds.  Right click then takes a further 10 seconds, so it's
possible there's a connection.  The other few payees react immediately.

Allan

> 
> Thanks
> 
> Ian

> 
> > Allan
> >
> >> I can't get past the fact that 1.0.5 works on this but 4.x.x
> >> doesn't. Weird!
> >>
> >> On 31/03/11 10:55, aga wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 09:13:37 +0100
> >>> Ian Millington<ian at ianmillington.co.uk>   wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi Allan
> >>>>
> >>>> I exported from both 1.05 and 4.5.3. I've sent you the latter.
> >>>> Here with 4.5.3 I can open the anonymous file but cannot edit
> >>>> the payee list still. There is no problem with 1.0.5
> >>>>
> >>>> On receipt of your message, thinking it might be a config issue,
> >>>> I renamed the rc file in my home directory, but the end result
> >>>> was the same - clicking anywhere in the payee pane (buttons or
> >>>> payee names) causes an instant freeze of the program.
> >>>>
> >>>> Don't know if this helps, but I have run KMM in a terminal and
> >>>> here is the message. The final lines are when the data file has
> >>>> loaded - clicking in the payee area produces nothing. Does this
> >>>> help?
> >>>>
> >>>> Ps this files a bit smaller than the last:-)
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks
> >>>>
> >>>> Ian
> >>> Hi Ian
> >>>
> >>> Those messages are normal, that is, I get them, too.
> >>>
> >>> I'm on the svn version, so I've now installed the openSuse
> >>> version, which is 4.5.2.  This too has no problem with your
> >>> payees in the anon file.  I can select, edit and delete them
> >>> without problem.
> >>>
> >>> So, if I can do this on svn and 4.5.2, and you can't on 4.5.3,
> >>> that suggest an incompatibility between 4.5.3 and your file.  If
> >>> you haven't already done this, could you try 4.5.2?
> >>>
> >>> Another couple of things you could try first.  If you could open
> >>> the config. settings, and then General/Filter, change the year
> >>> to, say 2011 to exclude earlier details.  See if that might
> >>> exclude a problem payee.  If so, try an earlier year, and, if
> >>> not, try a later month.  If this makes a difference in any way,
> >>> you might be able to narrow down to the problem, although with
> >>> the number of payees you have, it could be a bit laborious.
> >>>
> >>> The other way would be to run a Transactions report by payee, and
> >>> see if that coughs, or gives any indication of a problem.
> >>>
> >>> A final thing I might be tempted to try, if all else failed, is to
> >>> produce an xml file of your real data, and do a search and replace
> >>> in it.  It's a bit tricky, for me anyway, but I did succeed in
> >>> replacing every payee with a single new payee.  I think you said
> >>> you would be too upset to lose your payees?  Very important to
> >>> save the result with a new name, to avoid overwriting real data.
> >>> If you get to this stage, let me know!
> >>>
> >>> allan
> >>>
> >>>> On 31/03/11 00:23, aga wrote:
> >>>>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 23:29:13 +0100
> >>>>> Ian Millington<ian at ianmillington.co.uk>    wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Further to previous I attach an anonymous file - I figured
> >>>>>> out how to do it- turn off automatic file extension!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hope this helps
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ian.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Were you able to reproduce the problem with the anon file?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Here, the file loads OK and I can select the payees, and use the
> >>>>> buttons to delete.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Was the file from which it was produced your problem one, or one
> >>>>> from KMM2?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Allan
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